With Larry from Los Alamos. Led all the pitches. Best route I have climbed in Cochise to date. All trad: must have even removed a bolt someone added according to previous posts I saw. The 2nd pitch is by far the crux and all of 5.10c as the topo suggests...more like 5.11 climbing for me at the roof. The off-width for the first half of that pitch was easy going though I thought. Topo indicates do not off width there, I had no problem doing OW on lead (vs laybacking). Enjoyed having my large pieces of course. The upper 5.9 pitch is really nice. The rest of the route is not sustained. Beautiful area.