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gabrieleZumeles

gabriele

Voted 10/10

I really don't know wherefrom comes the name Garolès.
The small summits you're speaking of are the Zumeles ridge (Crepe de Zumèles), on the E side of Pomagagnon and where only 2 summits have their own name : Pala Peròsego and Campanile Peròsego - the height of the rocky walls is 90-150m and on these walls there are some routes opened by Scoiattoli di Cortina
Posted Aug 24, 2011 5:28 am

SzaniUherkovichRe: Zumeles

SzaniUherkovich

Hasn't voted

Hi Gabriele,

I'm not a local from Cortina, so I must base my knowledge on what I see and from the maps I have. In this case the name came from the map Freitag&Berndt map S10. It gives the name "Garòles" for the highest summit (2230 m) of this section of mountain. On this section I mean east to Forcella de Zumeles. My map indicates the ridge WEST to the forcella as Crepe de Zumeles. East to the saddle it also mentions Perósego Fedéra (so similar name as Pala Peròsego and Campanile Peròsego).

I can imagine that the mountain or its peaks have multiple nominations. There are cases for that: like for example Orgelspitze and Laaser Spitze in Ortles Group indicate the same summit. Perhaps this is the case here, too. Or the map editor made a mistake.

If you have a better guaranteed for the mountain or for its highest summit (the one with 2230 m height), then I'm happy to correct its title on SP, also mentioning Garoles as an alternative name.

If you have information also about the climbing routes, I'm happy to add this information.

Cheers, Szani
Posted Aug 24, 2011 8:45 am

gabrieleRe: Zumeles

gabriele

Voted 10/10

ok, let's make some close examination :
the E part of the Pomagagnon group, starting from Punta Erbing, is named "Crepe di Zumeles" and is made of :
a small summit (unnamed - 2165m), Forcella Zumeles (2072m), Pala Peròsego (2230m), an unnamed deep crack, Campanile Peròsego, an unnamed ridge going down to Somforca.
I've never heard (and found) the Garòles name in Cortina maps, books or other so I think it could be the typical mistake due to the bad use of german topographs to rename Italian mountains without getting local info : the best example is the Campanile Basso di Brenta that Germans know as "Guglia di Brenta".
If you enter Garòles in Google or Yahoo you can find only your page, photos and our messages :)
believe me ... this minigroup is the eastern part of Crepe de Zumeles

some useful links (in Italian of course) found entering Perosego in Google
http://www.vienormali.it/montagna/cima_scheda.asp?cod=482
http://ramecrodes.blogspot.com/2010/12/nel-2000-salii-per-la-prima-volta-la.html
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/50731912
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bellodis/5669282946/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bellodis/5496612945/
http://wwwramecrodes.blogspot.com/2009/08/sparito-anche-il-secondo-libro-di-vetta.html


about the routes I made a search in internet :
here I found
2 ottobre 1973: Pala di Perosego (Pomagagnon), parete sud, Raniero Valleferro, Alberto Dallago, 120 m, 6° gr. sup., 7 ore, 40 chiodi.
11 maggio 1968: Pala di Perosego (Pomagagnon), spigolo sud («spigolo Armando»), Diego Valleferro e Mario Dimai, 200 m, 6°gr., 5 ore, 35 chiodi.
29 giugno 1055: Campanile Perosego (Pomagagnon), Candido Bellodis, Beniamino Franceschi, Elio Valleferro, 4° gr. 1,30 ore, 2 chiodi.

ciao :)
Posted Aug 24, 2011 10:36 am

SzaniUherkovichRe: Zumeles

SzaniUherkovich

Hasn't voted

Perhaps the best will be if I re-work it with the name of Pala Peròsego. A bit later because now I'm busy for company work...
Posted Aug 24, 2011 11:08 am

gabrieleRe: Zumeles

gabriele

Voted 10/10

noooo, you can keep also that name : I found a map with Garoles name :

Posted Aug 24, 2011 11:12 am

SzaniUherkovichRe: Zumeles

SzaniUherkovich

Hasn't voted

Good! Nevertheless I add the alternative nominations and the climbing informations
Posted Aug 24, 2011 11:45 am

SzaniUherkovichRe: Zumeles

SzaniUherkovich

Hasn't voted

Hi Gabriele!

Ho modificato la pagina di questo monte, completando con i tuoi addizioni. Le internet pagine del tuo listino erano molto interestante. Da una parte non c'era nuovo informazione, ma da altra parte era molto interestante il blog comment del autore, scrivando dalla scatola e dal libretto di saliti come lui posizionava la scatola sulla cima.

Ciao, Szani


Posted Aug 24, 2011 5:35 pm

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