Route Climbed: Cathedral Gully Date Climbed: March 2003
Went up the leftmost gully in the saddle basin which is about AI1 neve snow typically in march. A nice hike with a descent down the Hamlin Ridge which is a gem of a trail.
Dad dropped me off on the southwest side of katahdin, i went up and over, down the knife edge and met him at chimney pond campground. he spent the day happily kayaking around. perfect day, perfect climb, knife edge was fun with fewer people.
Route Climbed: AT (Hunt, from Katahdin Stream Campground) Date Climbed: October 7, 2005
Katahdin, Maine
Maine's highest mountain, Katahdin, is the centerpiece of Baxter State Park. Comprised of 204,733 acres and located some 300 miles north of Boston, Baxter is unusual if not unique among parks. In much the same way that Grand Teton National Park was assembled and donated by the Rockefeller family in the 1920s, Baxter was assembled by Percival Baxter following his retirement as Maine's Governor in 1925.
What is unusual about Baxter State Park is that its donor stipulated that the wilderness aspect of the park should supersede its recreational aspect and to a large extent this has been honored. The result is a lovely, undeveloped ruggedness and somewhat stringent regulations that some people find restrictive. An example is the process by which campsite reservations are taken. Until recently, you had to show up in person on January 17th to hand in your campsite reservation request at the park headquarters. The system has been relaxed somewhat and a rolling four-month mail-in reservation system is now in place for a majority of the campsites but the town of Millinocket is still the scene, in the dead of the bitter Maine winter, of people camping out in order to secure their place in line.
I stayed outside the park in a motel in Millinocket (sort of Baxter's Jackson's Hole), one of several situated along the main (and pretty-much only) road in town, namely Rt 11/157, called Central Street. Inexpensive, clean and friendly, it was more than adequate with free continental breakfast beginning at 5AM and free wireless Internet access.
Maine is the scene of an environmental and economic tug-of-war between the local residents and the Nature Conservancy. The economy of central Maine is dominated by the paper business and its subsidiary business, lumbering. The next-most important business is that of tourism which includes hunting, fishing, hiking, camping and photography. The paper business has been having a difficult time for years and as a result the local population depends ever more on tourism; and this tourism depends on access to the vast woods that for the most part are privately owned by the paper and lumber companies.
In the early days of the lumber industry, loggers would work all winter cutting timber and dragging it to the frozen lakes where they piled it up on the ice. Come Spring, the ice would melt and the logs would be floated down the streams and rivers to the mills. In the 1960s environmental awareness grew in the United States, with dramatically beneficial results for the most part; one of the new environmental laws prohibited the floating of logs on rivers. In response, the paper and logging companies developed a network of private roads to support the huge logging trucks that they now needed to carry the timber.
In the Millinocket area, the Great Northern Paper company provided the economic life blood for the community, and it fell on hard times. The company changed hands several times, becoming a smaller employer with each name change. At one point it was being bled by its then-owners who mortgaged vast tracts of their land; the Nature Conservancy held the paper on quite a bit of this when the company once more went into bankruptcy. As a result, the Nature Conservancy is now a very large Maine land owner.
However, the Nature Conservancy's objectives do not coincide with those of the locals ... whereas the timber and paper companies were happy to have hunting guides and others use their roads, the Nature Conservancy is not and it has torn the roads up and piled huge boulders on them to prevent anyone from using the roads to access the wilderness. While there is an admirable objective underlying this, the effect on the local outdoorsmen has been hard.
Another factor is also now at work, namely developers. In a spirit completely opposite that of the Nature Conservancy, some other land has been acquired with hotels, houses and golf courses in mind. It remains to be seen how all this will play out. Perhaps in the end a balance will be struck that will help support the local economy and also preserve large tracts of wilderness for the benefit of the environment and future generations of nature lovers. We can only hope.
During the second week of October the leaves are brilliant and the bull moose are in rut with their dramatic antlers in full display (if you can find them; serendipity may play a role but otherwise it's helpful to have a guide to take you to the wild parts outside the park). In 2005 the weather wasn't the best for my climb but it was still a great time to be outdoors in and above the Maine woods.
The "tote road" inside the park forks immediately after the Togue Pond entrance gate and you can climb from campsites on either side of the mountain. I chose the left fork and parked at the Katahdin Stream Campground. The last stage of the Appalachian Trail runs through the campground and its northern terminus is at Baxter Peak, the highest point of Katahdin. The park gate opened at 6:00AM and I was there waiting at 5:45AM, behind several other vehicles.
The climb has basically three stages. The first and third are relatively easy hikes through the woods and over rocks; the middle third is quite difficult, requiring hard scrambling over a vast pile-up of boulders that measure 10 to 15 feet on a side.
You start out in the pine woods, following and sometimes walking in the Katahdin stream. There's a pretty waterfall and the path is fragrant and lovely with pines, birches, maples, sumac and ash. The path mostly runs in deep woods but from time to time you emerge to a view of the vast woods spread below you, all green, yellow and red with ponds glistening like scattered silver. Hiking poles are handy and you will pant and work up a sweat, but the lower third of the climb is nothing any active person couldn't easily accomplish.
The trail is 5.6 miles long and at some point you come to a rock that is marked with "3 M" and an arrow pointing to the summit. You think to yourself, "Half-way done! That wasn't so bad.". By the time you come to another rock marked "2 M", however, you will have gotten a very different perspective on things. Almost immediately after the "3 M" sign, you come out of the trees and are faced with a very steep grade stretching up into the sky consisting entirely of enormous boulders you have to climb around and over. From time to time you come to iron bars hammered into the rock to help you haul yourself up, but for the most part it's hands and feet and knees and elbows. This part of the trail demands excellent hiking boots to provide support and secure footing, and the hiking poles become more of a hindrance than a help.
The "2 M" mark is not the end of your ordeal, you have another 1/2 mile or so to go until you climb out onto the plateau of Thoreau Spring. Here, you are completely above the tree line and the only vegetation is very low mosses, lichen and grasses. Signs implore you to stay on the trail because of the delicacy of these sub-alpine plants.
The climbing from here to Baxter Peak is not easy but it is considerably more so than what you've accomplished. The view from the summit is quite spectacular, if the weather will permit. Looking down the opposite face from the one you've just climbed, you see a sheer rocky precipice with streams and lakes far below and in the distance (see my photo below). To the right, extending into the near horizon, is the Knife's Edge leading to further peaks of Katahdin.
The peak is 5,267 feet above sea level, 4,168 vertical feet above your starting point at the campsite. Reaching the summit is a great achievement but as with all mountains the descent is riskier because you're tired and climbing down backwards is in many ways more difficult than climbing up as you lurch awkwardly head-first toward the abyss. Take good care.
Directions to Katahdin
Take I-95 to Exit 244, Rt. 11/157, to Millinocket, ME
Drive through East Millinocket (with the large paper mill to your left along the river) and then Millinocket
The Baxter State Park headquarters is on the left as you drive through town; you should stop in.
At the far end of Millinocket take a right and then a left (clearly marked with brown Baxter State Park signs) and follow the road to the Togue Pond Gate where you register. Bear left after the gate (the rangers will direct you).
The Appalachian Trail route (called the Hunt Trail by the Park) begins at the Katahdin Stream Campground which has plenty of daily parking if you get there early. Camping in the park requires lots of advance planning; staying in a local motel or cabin is easy and inexpensive.
It's about 325 miles from Boston. An expensive alternative is to fly into Bangor or Bar Harbor and rent a car.
Route Climbed: Helon Taylor / Knife Edge Date Climbed: September 5, 2005
Duane Gilliland and I climbed Katahdin as part of our 7-state highpointing trip over Labor Day weekend. We had perfect weather, and it being a national holiday, there were many folks on the mountain. We were impressed, however, at how many of them were completely unprepared for trouble. This is a real mountain with many hazards, and many people were wearing very little and carried nothing. The ranger at the TH did no screening or qualifying of the so-called "hikers". The "ranger" on the summit had only been up the peak once before, and he knew nothing about the various routes. We encountered some completely inexperienced folks who were headed down via the knife-edge, which would be OK except that there's some rather interesting 3rd class rock that would be more difficult to descend than it was to ascend. Even the easiest summit route (Saddle Trail) has a rather steep, loose couloir near the top, and the hikers we saw on that pitch seemed to struggle greatly on the descent. When we drove out of the parking area at about 4:30PM, most of the cars were still there, and we realized why there had been a steady stream of cars leaving the area well after dark the evening before. The Baxter State Park rangers are very concerned about avoiding rescue situations. They should start by qualifying people based on experience, gear, and other preparedness criteria, IMO, like the Adirondack Mountain Club rangers did at Mt. Marcy. Am I over-reacting?
Climbed it about 20 times in my teenage years. I love the Cathedral Trail and the Hamlin Ridge Trail, making a loop out of either and the Helon Taylor Trail. Abol is good for a fast ascent (2 hrs. from campground to peak in my speedy days!).
Route Climbed: Saddle Trail Date Climbed: August 8, 2003
Awesome climb, though a bit foggy and wet. This was my third attempt (rained out previous 2). My wife and I made it up together though neither of us were in good physical shape at the time. Something about that mountain will keep us coming back - Knife's Edge in 2005!
Route Climbed: Abol Trail Date Climbed: September 1977
Less than 100 feet of visibility until I reached the summit. Suddenly the clouds lifted and you could see for 20 miles. Thirty minutes later, the cloud window closed as if the mountain had given it to me as a reward.
Route Climbed: Hunt Trail Date Climbed: June 10, 2004
By far my favorite mountain to climb. Being out of shape, it was quite a challenge and the exposed sections made be a bit nervous on the way up. All in all, the climb was incredible...
Route Climbed: Knife Edge Date Climbed: Sept 25, 2003
Windy day with clouds stuck on Katahdin's summit all day. The Knife Edge was a fun walk/scramble and not as windy as the Helon Taylor route I took to Pamola. I continued over to Hamlin's summit to make a long loop and for the views of Katahdin. An early start and the wind advisory meant I only saw 3 other groups out above treeline.
Route Climbed: Hunt/AT Date Climbed: August 26, 1998
I've climbed Katahdin three times, but the most memorable was this day when I completed my AT Thruhike. I found I appreciated the mountain a lot more when I had 5 months to ponder my arrival and for the last week could see it growing larger as I drew a little closer each day.
Route Climbed: Knife Ridge, Saddle Trail Date Climbed: August, 1990
I've hiked/climbed Katahdin 2 times, both on visits to my Grandfather's house in Northern Maine. I was very young the first time, so my only memory is very strong winds - my father, uncle, and brother joked about tying a rope around my waist and using me as a kite. The second time, I went with my dad and uncle (again), and the wind wasn't as strong. Katahdin is a great highpoint, and a beautiful spot in Maine (one of many).
Route Climbed: Helon Taylor, Knife Edge, Saddle, Hamlin Ridge, Roaring Brook Date Climbed: July 4th 2004
Climbing Katahdin was the best 4th of July I've ever had. It was the first big mountain I've climbed and inspired me to start hiking more often. The weather was absolutely perfect, and it wasn't too crowded. The Knife Edge is amazing. I plan on going back every year. Katahdin makes me proud to be a Mainer.
Route Climbed: Helon Taylor to Knife Edge Date Climbed: august 10, 2000
Started the trip at 6:00AM with just about perfect weather the whole climb. Not many climbers on Helon Taylor, but when we left Pamola Peak to the Knife Edge, we encountered swarms of people all the way to Baxter. On the whole it made for a great but crowded day on the mountain.
Seth Maciejowski - Oct 14, 2005 5:11 pm
Route Climbed: Cathedral Gully Date Climbed: March 2003Went up the leftmost gully in the saddle basin which is about AI1 neve snow typically in march. A nice hike with a descent down the Hamlin Ridge which is a gem of a trail.
climberkristin - Oct 10, 2005 6:15 pm
Date Climbed: 8/2004Dad dropped me off on the southwest side of katahdin, i went up and over, down the knife edge and met him at chimney pond campground. he spent the day happily kayaking around. perfect day, perfect climb, knife edge was fun with fewer people.
grfiv - Oct 10, 2005 12:46 pm
Route Climbed: AT (Hunt, from Katahdin Stream Campground) Date Climbed: October 7, 2005Katahdin, Maine
Maine's highest mountain, Katahdin, is the centerpiece of Baxter State Park. Comprised of 204,733 acres and located some 300 miles north of Boston, Baxter is unusual if not unique among parks. In much the same way that Grand Teton National Park was assembled and donated by the Rockefeller family in the 1920s, Baxter was assembled by Percival Baxter following his retirement as Maine's Governor in 1925.
What is unusual about Baxter State Park is that its donor stipulated that the wilderness aspect of the park should supersede its recreational aspect and to a large extent this has been honored. The result is a lovely, undeveloped ruggedness and somewhat stringent regulations that some people find restrictive. An example is the process by which campsite reservations are taken. Until recently, you had to show up in person on January 17th to hand in your campsite reservation request at the park headquarters. The system has been relaxed somewhat and a rolling four-month mail-in reservation system is now in place for a majority of the campsites but the town of Millinocket is still the scene, in the dead of the bitter Maine winter, of people camping out in order to secure their place in line.
I stayed outside the park in a motel in Millinocket (sort of Baxter's Jackson's Hole), one of several situated along the main (and pretty-much only) road in town, namely Rt 11/157, called Central Street. Inexpensive, clean and friendly, it was more than adequate with free continental breakfast beginning at 5AM and free wireless Internet access.
Maine is the scene of an environmental and economic tug-of-war between the local residents and the Nature Conservancy. The economy of central Maine is dominated by the paper business and its subsidiary business, lumbering. The next-most important business is that of tourism which includes hunting, fishing, hiking, camping and photography. The paper business has been having a difficult time for years and as a result the local population depends ever more on tourism; and this tourism depends on access to the vast woods that for the most part are privately owned by the paper and lumber companies.
In the early days of the lumber industry, loggers would work all winter cutting timber and dragging it to the frozen lakes where they piled it up on the ice. Come Spring, the ice would melt and the logs would be floated down the streams and rivers to the mills. In the 1960s environmental awareness grew in the United States, with dramatically beneficial results for the most part; one of the new environmental laws prohibited the floating of logs on rivers. In response, the paper and logging companies developed a network of private roads to support the huge logging trucks that they now needed to carry the timber.
In the Millinocket area, the Great Northern Paper company provided the economic life blood for the community, and it fell on hard times. The company changed hands several times, becoming a smaller employer with each name change. At one point it was being bled by its then-owners who mortgaged vast tracts of their land; the Nature Conservancy held the paper on quite a bit of this when the company once more went into bankruptcy. As a result, the Nature Conservancy is now a very large Maine land owner.
However, the Nature Conservancy's objectives do not coincide with those of the locals ... whereas the timber and paper companies were happy to have hunting guides and others use their roads, the Nature Conservancy is not and it has torn the roads up and piled huge boulders on them to prevent anyone from using the roads to access the wilderness. While there is an admirable objective underlying this, the effect on the local outdoorsmen has been hard.
Another factor is also now at work, namely developers. In a spirit completely opposite that of the Nature Conservancy, some other land has been acquired with hotels, houses and golf courses in mind. It remains to be seen how all this will play out. Perhaps in the end a balance will be struck that will help support the local economy and also preserve large tracts of wilderness for the benefit of the environment and future generations of nature lovers. We can only hope.
During the second week of October the leaves are brilliant and the bull moose are in rut with their dramatic antlers in full display (if you can find them; serendipity may play a role but otherwise it's helpful to have a guide to take you to the wild parts outside the park). In 2005 the weather wasn't the best for my climb but it was still a great time to be outdoors in and above the Maine woods.
The "tote road" inside the park forks immediately after the Togue Pond entrance gate and you can climb from campsites on either side of the mountain. I chose the left fork and parked at the Katahdin Stream Campground. The last stage of the Appalachian Trail runs through the campground and its northern terminus is at Baxter Peak, the highest point of Katahdin. The park gate opened at 6:00AM and I was there waiting at 5:45AM, behind several other vehicles.
The climb has basically three stages. The first and third are relatively easy hikes through the woods and over rocks; the middle third is quite difficult, requiring hard scrambling over a vast pile-up of boulders that measure 10 to 15 feet on a side.
You start out in the pine woods, following and sometimes walking in the Katahdin stream. There's a pretty waterfall and the path is fragrant and lovely with pines, birches, maples, sumac and ash. The path mostly runs in deep woods but from time to time you emerge to a view of the vast woods spread below you, all green, yellow and red with ponds glistening like scattered silver. Hiking poles are handy and you will pant and work up a sweat, but the lower third of the climb is nothing any active person couldn't easily accomplish.
The trail is 5.6 miles long and at some point you come to a rock that is marked with "3 M" and an arrow pointing to the summit. You think to yourself, "Half-way done! That wasn't so bad.". By the time you come to another rock marked "2 M", however, you will have gotten a very different perspective on things. Almost immediately after the "3 M" sign, you come out of the trees and are faced with a very steep grade stretching up into the sky consisting entirely of enormous boulders you have to climb around and over. From time to time you come to iron bars hammered into the rock to help you haul yourself up, but for the most part it's hands and feet and knees and elbows. This part of the trail demands excellent hiking boots to provide support and secure footing, and the hiking poles become more of a hindrance than a help.
The "2 M" mark is not the end of your ordeal, you have another 1/2 mile or so to go until you climb out onto the plateau of Thoreau Spring. Here, you are completely above the tree line and the only vegetation is very low mosses, lichen and grasses. Signs implore you to stay on the trail because of the delicacy of these sub-alpine plants.
The climbing from here to Baxter Peak is not easy but it is considerably more so than what you've accomplished. The view from the summit is quite spectacular, if the weather will permit. Looking down the opposite face from the one you've just climbed, you see a sheer rocky precipice with streams and lakes far below and in the distance (see my photo below). To the right, extending into the near horizon, is the Knife's Edge leading to further peaks of Katahdin.
The peak is 5,267 feet above sea level, 4,168 vertical feet above your starting point at the campsite. Reaching the summit is a great achievement but as with all mountains the descent is riskier because you're tired and climbing down backwards is in many ways more difficult than climbing up as you lurch awkwardly head-first toward the abyss. Take good care.
Directions to Katahdin
Take I-95 to Exit 244, Rt. 11/157, to Millinocket, ME
Drive through East Millinocket (with the large paper mill to your left along the river) and then Millinocket
The Baxter State Park headquarters is on the left as you drive through town; you should stop in.
At the far end of Millinocket take a right and then a left (clearly marked with brown Baxter State Park signs) and follow the road to the Togue Pond Gate where you register. Bear left after the gate (the rangers will direct you).
The Appalachian Trail route (called the Hunt Trail by the Park) begins at the Katahdin Stream Campground which has plenty of daily parking if you get there early. Camping in the park requires lots of advance planning; staying in a local motel or cabin is easy and inexpensive.
It's about 325 miles from Boston. An expensive alternative is to fly into Bangor or Bar Harbor and rent a car.
Millinocket also has a private airport.
Ilafan - Jul 21, 2006 1:34 am
Re: Route Climbed: AT (Hunt, from Katahdin Stream Campground) Date Climbed: October 7, 2005Excellent details! Reading your log entry brought my experience back to me in a very vivid manner. Thanks for the fine post!
adwilson - Sep 22, 2005 3:37 pm
Route Climbed: Hunt Trail Date Climbed: 1995Wahington to Katahdin is a good hike.
Bob Bolton - Sep 9, 2005 11:33 pm
Route Climbed: Helon Taylor / Knife Edge Date Climbed: September 5, 2005Duane Gilliland and I climbed Katahdin as part of our 7-state highpointing trip over Labor Day weekend. We had perfect weather, and it being a national holiday, there were many folks on the mountain. We were impressed, however, at how many of them were completely unprepared for trouble. This is a real mountain with many hazards, and many people were wearing very little and carried nothing. The ranger at the TH did no screening or qualifying of the so-called "hikers". The "ranger" on the summit had only been up the peak once before, and he knew nothing about the various routes. We encountered some completely inexperienced folks who were headed down via the knife-edge, which would be OK except that there's some rather interesting 3rd class rock that would be more difficult to descend than it was to ascend. Even the easiest summit route (Saddle Trail) has a rather steep, loose couloir near the top, and the hikers we saw on that pitch seemed to struggle greatly on the descent. When we drove out of the parking area at about 4:30PM, most of the cars were still there, and we realized why there had been a steady stream of cars leaving the area well after dark the evening before. The Baxter State Park rangers are very concerned about avoiding rescue situations. They should start by qualifying people based on experience, gear, and other preparedness criteria, IMO, like the Adirondack Mountain Club rangers did at Mt. Marcy. Am I over-reacting?
Matt Worster - Aug 12, 2005 6:24 pm
Route Climbed: All of them! :-)Climbed it about 20 times in my teenage years. I love the Cathedral Trail and the Hamlin Ridge Trail, making a loop out of either and the Helon Taylor Trail. Abol is good for a fast ascent (2 hrs. from campground to peak in my speedy days!).
hikeman76 - Jun 11, 2005 9:57 am
Route Climbed: Abol Trail Date Climbed: June 9 2005VERY hot with tons of blackflies. Views from the top were excellent and I can't wait to go back next summer!
Pawel Krol - Jun 1, 2005 10:28 am
Route Climbed: Waterfall Gulley Date Climbed: Feb 2005Nice and hard alpine climb !
Highly classic and recommended
Beren - May 12, 2005 11:45 pm
Route Climbed: Saddle Trail Date Climbed: August 8, 2003Awesome climb, though a bit foggy and wet. This was my third attempt (rained out previous 2). My wife and I made it up together though neither of us were in good physical shape at the time. Something about that mountain will keep us coming back - Knife's Edge in 2005!
easleygone - Apr 13, 2005 12:02 am
Route Climbed: Catheral Ridge Date Climbed: Aug 1991A tough little climb. Man, was this park over-regulated!
The rangers were so officious it just made you want
to break a rule. Otherwise I did get one of my favorite
summit shots(the AT termination) here.
Dundeel - Mar 10, 2005 1:20 am
Route Climbed: Abol Trail Date Climbed: September 1977Less than 100 feet of visibility until I reached the summit. Suddenly the clouds lifted and you could see for 20 miles. Thirty minutes later, the cloud window closed as if the mountain had given it to me as a reward.
hikeman76 - Feb 21, 2005 2:21 pm
Route Climbed: Hunt Trail Date Climbed: June 10, 2004By far my favorite mountain to climb. Being out of shape, it was quite a challenge and the exposed sections made be a bit nervous on the way up. All in all, the climb was incredible...
amcfarre - Feb 17, 2005 10:24 am
Route Climbed: Knife Edge Date Climbed: Sept 25, 2003Windy day with clouds stuck on Katahdin's summit all day. The Knife Edge was a fun walk/scramble and not as windy as the Helon Taylor route I took to Pamola. I continued over to Hamlin's summit to make a long loop and for the views of Katahdin. An early start and the wind advisory meant I only saw 3 other groups out above treeline.
Full report with pictures
chilkoot - Feb 8, 2005 11:29 pm
Route Climbed: Hunt/AT Date Climbed: August 26, 1998I've climbed Katahdin three times, but the most memorable was this day when I completed my AT Thruhike. I found I appreciated the mountain a lot more when I had 5 months to ponder my arrival and for the last week could see it growing larger as I drew a little closer each day.
Steve Gruhn - Jan 26, 2005 10:29 pm
Route Climbed: Saddle Trail Date Climbed: October 11, 2004Rocky trail with a bit of a breeze on top. Easy day.
ben - Nov 4, 2004 2:06 am
Route Climbed: Knife Ridge, Saddle Trail Date Climbed: August, 1990I've hiked/climbed Katahdin 2 times, both on visits to my Grandfather's house in Northern Maine. I was very young the first time, so my only memory is very strong winds - my father, uncle, and brother joked about tying a rope around my waist and using me as a kite. The second time, I went with my dad and uncle (again), and the wind wasn't as strong. Katahdin is a great highpoint, and a beautiful spot in Maine (one of many).
csmcgranahan - Oct 31, 2004 3:25 pm
Route Climbed: Up Hunt Trail, Down Helon Taylor Trail Date Climbed: September 11, 2004This was a great hike on a great mountain! See my trip report.
whiteheat - Oct 13, 2004 11:51 pm
Route Climbed: Helon Taylor, Knife Edge, Saddle, Hamlin Ridge, Roaring Brook Date Climbed: July 4th 2004Climbing Katahdin was the best 4th of July I've ever had. It was the first big mountain I've climbed and inspired me to start hiking more often. The weather was absolutely perfect, and it wasn't too crowded. The Knife Edge is amazing. I plan on going back every year. Katahdin makes me proud to be a Mainer.
corsair - Sep 8, 2004 5:05 pm
Route Climbed: Helon Taylor to Knife Edge Date Climbed: august 10, 2000Started the trip at 6:00AM with just about perfect weather the whole climb. Not many climbers on Helon Taylor, but when we left Pamola Peak to the Knife Edge, we encountered swarms of people all the way to Baxter. On the whole it made for a great but crowded day on the mountain.