With Liba. Outstanding route, much better than Breakfast of Champions. Yes it has some bird shit on it, so what. If that is the worse thing you touch in life, you are living too clean. The first pitch traverse felt exposed but was well bolted. Just good face climbing movement. The 2nd pitch starts out with a cool finger crack/corner with intricate gear and finished with fun hands. This route covers so many types of climbing at the grade in less than 200'. A 5 star route at Jtree.