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| Rahel Maria Liu | Route Comment | |
Hasn't voted | The only possibility for a safe approach is on the western side of Rocher Pitschner/Rocher de l'Heureux Retour, that means on the normal way from Ref. Grands Mulets to Bossesridge. An approach on the eastern side, that means between Rocher Pitschner/Rocher de l'Heureux Retour and Aig. de Saussure/Mont Maudit, which might seem to be logical, is impossible because of falling seracs and avalanches. | |
| Posted Aug 19, 2002 4:40 pm | ||
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| Diego Sahagún | Route Comment | |
Hasn't voted | Thank Rahel for your explanation. | |
| Posted Aug 19, 2002 6:19 pm | ||
| Rahel Maria Liu | Route Comment | |
Hasn't voted | I'm not sure, whether it's possible today to find a safe way to the Corridor from the western part of le Grand Plateau at all. If you stay too deep, that means below 3928m, the big crevasses/seracs in the western part might make it impossible. If you try it very high, you might get into trouble with crevasses in the East. | |
| Posted Aug 19, 2002 5:06 pm | ||
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| Diego Sahagún | Route Comment | |
Hasn't voted | You could be right Rahel, I'd said something alike in my Route description. My information is from "Mont Blanc Massif Volume I" by Lindsay Griffin. I'd like to be there to prove those crevasses, seracs and avalanches but I'm here, in Madrid, under the terrifying sun. Nevertheless, I'll try to find more information about this fact, danke. | |
| Posted Aug 19, 2002 6:09 pm | ||
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| Rahel Maria Liu | Route Comment | |
Hasn't voted | Hi Diego, I just uploaded a photo of the northern part of Grand Plateau , which I took from Éperon Gousseault (or rather Ivano took it with my camera ;-)). You can see very well the big crevasses in the eastern part , which are impossible to traverse. But you can also see on the left edge of the picture, how the Grand Plateau is like swiss cheese .... Cheers Rahel | |
| Posted Aug 20, 2002 4:33 am | ||
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| Diego Sahagún | Route Comment | |
Hasn't voted | Yes, it could be an Emmental cheese. Thank you for your image or may be I have to congratulate Ivano. I'm not sure if those crevasses are to the East of Rocher Pitschner or upper, Rocher de l'Heureux Retour or even the rocks to the East of Grandes Montées. Take the map, localize the upper part of Éperon Gousseault and trace a straight line. I think it could be a rock face between Rocher Pitschner and you. Also I'm not very sure of where is Éperon Gousseault because it doesn't figure in my maps. Could you upload a map showing this spur? Anyway, congratulations for your climb together! | |
| Posted Aug 20, 2002 9:57 am | ||
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| Rahel Maria Liu | Route Comment | |
Hasn't voted | Thanks, and yes, of course, you identified the place correctly: These rocks are the uppermost rocks of the whole rock line, which I meant, when I wrote Rocher Pitschner/Rocher de l'Heureux. As I wrote, it's the end of the rock line (short below 3900m), in the south of which both glaciers meet, which come up from Ref. Grands Mulets separately. In the french map, the serac zone is marked. It' s the serac zone in the East of Les Grandes Montées (which means the whole area, I think, and not only the rocks - therefore I did not use this name for the rock line to which I referred). Éperon Gousseault ist a rock line just down to the SW below Pointe Mieulet. It starts a little bit in the SW of the marked P. 4087. The Emmentaler cheese does not end there, but still goes further to the South. I have a copy of a nice scetch from the Italian Alpine Club, which I got from Ivano. I could scan it, but first I want to ask for the permission to publish it with the drawing of Éperon Gousseault. Cheers Rahel | |
| Posted Aug 20, 2002 10:16 am | ||
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