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Fred SpickerVery Realistic

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Finally what I consider a well done realistic comparison of YDS and UIAA rock climbing difficulty grading. The numbers posted here correspond very well to what I have actually experienced climbing in both the (western) USA and Europe.

Thanks for putting in the work (and for listening to my $.02 worth).

Your next task is easier - USA "Grades" I, II, etc. correspond very will the European F, PD etc. Will you also include the German L,WS, etc.?
Posted Feb 18, 2006 8:57 pm

mvsthanks Fred

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Right on, more like $.80 cents if the page is $1.00 :D.
Okay I will find the German system too, though I hadn't heard of it. I'll work on that tomorrow afternoon - in the morning is a ski tour :))
Posted Feb 18, 2006 11:03 pm

NelsonAnother Source

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Great page. Here is another source you can leverage from. It includes a nice table with various other systems. It'a PDF file from the AAC:
International Grade Comparison Chart
Posted Feb 20, 2006 4:07 pm

mvsFinally done

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Thanks Nelson it looks like a good source! I finally finished the Alpine Grade section. Let's all go climb an ED4 now :-)
Posted Mar 4, 2006 8:20 pm

Sebastian HammRe: Finally done

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After ED follows ABO = "abominable"

for example: Petit Dru - Harlin/Robbins-Route
Posted Aug 15, 2007 2:30 pm

JScolesNice

Voted 10/10

One of the best I have seen for a while. There was a realy good german one (in german of course and long out of print) which did much the same job
Posted Apr 7, 2006 8:34 pm

mvsRe: Nice

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Thank you! Hey, your profile is very interesting. I'll have to hit you up for some good climb ideas in the alps this summer.
Posted Apr 11, 2006 7:29 am

WoundedKneeVery helpful

Voted 10/10

and well done.
Posted Jul 14, 2006 12:13 pm

jordansahlsWish I had seen this earlier!

Voted 10/10

This is really helpful, I have always been able to understand the Yosemite decimal system, but the others were a bit of an enigma to me. This is a great reference page, thanks a lot!
Posted Oct 2, 2006 9:03 pm

mvsRe: Wish I had seen this earlier!

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Cool, glad it's been useful Jordan!
Posted Oct 4, 2006 1:19 pm

Erik BeelerThanks for

Voted 10/10

putting this up. Perhaps you could add the Water Ice (WI) and Alpine Ice(AI) grades here too?
Posted Dec 20, 2006 6:10 pm

mvsRe: Thanks for

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It's a good idea, I will do that when I return from vacation, thx!
Posted Dec 21, 2006 5:00 am

Diego SahagĂșnGrades II+ and III-

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mvs,

I've found here (http://www.theuiaa.org/guidebook_standards.html - left and below) that there is no grades II+ and III- for the UIAA. I think that you have included them in your table for comparing with the Yosemite grades but I thought I had to say you.

Thanks
Posted Aug 21, 2008 6:31 am

mvsRe: Grades II+ and III-

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Nice, good site. I removed those two grades, especially since I had no comments for them anyway. Thx again, all the best!
Posted Aug 22, 2008 7:47 am

gabrieleReal 3-point climbing

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for 2° UIAA - maybe better to explain that 3 point climbing means that one can move only one hand or one foot a time so : 3 fixed point climbing
... somebody intended it as "using" one hand :)
Posted Aug 21, 2008 8:31 am

mvsRe: Real 3-point climbing

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Thanks Gabriele, I added some explanatory text there.
Posted Aug 22, 2008 7:46 am

Luciano136Great page!

Voted 10/10


I look at some European mountains sometimes and always pull my hair out trying to figure out the difficulty :-). Kind of funny since I am from Europe but only know the US system.
Posted Jun 5, 2009 6:25 pm

FabienenCordobaThe alpine grade explained

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Hi everyone,

You might be interested to know that contributors to camptocamp.org published an article explaining the alpine grade. I just translated it to english: http://www.camptocamp.org/articles/188413/en
Posted Nov 8, 2009 6:46 am

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