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Ski MountaineerReally the highest in Italy?

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http://www.summitpost.org/mountain/rock/150245/mont-blanc.html#chapter_15
Posted Sep 8, 2006 8:40 am

schmid_thThe highest!

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In different alpine books Mont Blanc de Courmayeur is noted as the highest mountain of Italy.
Posted Sep 8, 2006 9:21 am

Ski MountaineerRe: The highest!

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So?
And where does the border go officially?
Posted Sep 8, 2006 10:20 am

Sebastian HammRe: The highest!

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Some People say, that the border goes over the main summit, so the main summit is the highest point of Italy and France. So otherwise MBdC must be the highest summit of Italy which mustn´t be shared with an other country. In my map, the border goes around main summit and courmayeur, so that both peaks are on the french site of the border. Mont Maudit is in my map really shared. I think it is very difficult to say, because everybodys opinion is based on other secondary literature. Perhaps it is like Matterhorn, the border runs over the top, but the highest point is in Switzerland.

Maybe this question comes up to an international conflict. ;-)

Salü
Sebastian
Posted Sep 8, 2006 10:28 am

Ski MountaineerRe: The highest!

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No need for an international conflict (: . The border has been defined. No?
Does anybody has the IGM map? I am curious what it states. Or is the cooperation map IGN-IGM map out yet?

Cheers,
Peter



Posted Sep 8, 2006 10:56 am

schmid_thRe: The highest!

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In the french maps the frontier runs from the Bosses ridge (p.4740 m) across the rocks to the Brouillard ridge and then to the top of Mont Blanc de Courmayeur. Then it leads to the direction of Mont Maudit.
So Mont Blanc is the highest french peak and MB de Courmayeur the highest italian peak.
I hope that there will not develop a conflict between these contries... ;-)
Posted Sep 8, 2006 11:01 am

Ski MountaineerRe: The highest!

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Well we all know the French version. This does not help.
Again, where is the border officially? Where does the watershed run? I am curious...for me it is not a given thing that the border runs through MtdC.
I have seen plenty of errorous maps, border shifting, wishfull thinking and stuff like that.

I think the official definition is the reference unless someone proves w/o doubt the opposite.

At least mentioning the dispute would not hurt. The statement "highest in Italy" is a strong one, and I would make sure that I can back it up. At least Summitpost should try to remain geographically correct.

Cheers,
Peter
Posted Sep 8, 2006 11:08 am

Sebastian HammRe: The highest!

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See this map
Posted Sep 8, 2006 11:26 am

schmid_thRe: The highest!

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This Kompass map (Austrian map) says the same. The frontier goes across MB de Courmayeur.
If somebody can show that these maps are wrong I will change it accordingly.
Posted Sep 8, 2006 11:55 am

Ski MountaineerRe: The highest!

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See first link. You decide.
Posted Sep 8, 2006 12:02 pm

liviozAt present..

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..and probably next year, on the italian side both rifugio Monzino and rifugio Gonella are closed.
Posted Sep 8, 2006 10:38 am

Gabriele Rothfrontier ...

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"The frontier between France and Italy runs across Mont Blanc de Courmayeur" ... if so the Brenva side (and the west face) should be France !?
you'd better cut off this info :)
Posted Sep 8, 2006 10:48 am

Sebastian HammRe: frontier ...

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See this map
Posted Sep 8, 2006 11:09 am

Gabriele RothRe: frontier ...

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see this other one :)
Posted Sep 8, 2006 4:05 pm

Sebastian HammRe: frontier ...

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;-) okay, very difficult question. Should we say that the border of F and I runs over the Mont Blanc massif? ;-)

Greets
Sebastian
Posted Sep 8, 2006 5:33 pm

Gabriele RothRe: frontier ...

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I've never seen a flag or a border guard on its summit :)
Posted Sep 8, 2006 5:41 pm

hgrapidLongitude in wrong hemisphere

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I am surprised nobody caught this. This peak is not over 7,000 miles away from Mont Blanc, is it?

113.91°W is wrong. Also, the latitude is probably WAY too far south. Notice the Lat/Long for Mont Blanc is 45.83270°N / 6.86430°E

You should really fix that.
Posted Aug 20, 2009 6:27 pm

schmid_thRe: Longitude in wrong hemisphere

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Thanks for your information. I will check it and look for correct information! Cheers Thomas
Posted Aug 21, 2009 3:51 pm

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