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RickandRhonda


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:12 am GMT  Quote
 
I've been to the Colchuck Lake trailhead a couple times, and a few times there were no day permits. What do you do then?
Wastral


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:08 am GMT  Quote
 
Go anyways. To hell with anal rules. Then again, last time I went I never even bothered to check if they had a day permit. Just parked and climbed. Then again... I have never gone back either. Its not worth it and Glacier peak wilderness and the north cascades are better anyways.

RickandRhonda wrote:
I've been to the Colchuck Lake trailhead a couple times, and a few times there were no day permits. What do you do then?
TimmyC


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:01 pm GMT  Quote
 
RickandRhonda wrote:
My favorite is when the Iron Rangers have no permits no left in them- first thing in the morning. Screw it, I don't drive that far to turn around. I did my part by trying, it's not my fault if they can't keep the Iron Ranger stocked.


I wonder if it's possible (or, even better, if they're already doing this) for our local outdoor stores to keep stashes of permit cards. I'd much rather make a stop on my way out of town at a retailer I like to support and be guaranteed a card (call ahead! talk to a live person! yay!) than arrive at TH and get skunked.

IANAL so I ask those who might know better, is there a reason local retailers couldn't do this? Liability? Supply? I'm just thinking that it would be a great way to drive customer traffic, y'know, "get/submit your permit cards here when you're buying [fuel/food/socks]."
RickandRhonda


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:07 am GMT  Quote
 
TimmyC wrote:
RickandRhonda wrote:
My favorite is when the Iron Rangers have no permits no left in them- first thing in the morning. Screw it, I don't drive that far to turn around. I did my part by trying, it's not my fault if they can't keep the Iron Ranger stocked.


I wonder if it's possible (or, even better, if they're already doing this) for our local outdoor stores to keep stashes of permit cards. I'd much rather make a stop on my way out of town at a retailer I like to support and be guaranteed a card (call ahead! talk to a live person! yay!) than arrive at TH and get skunked.

IANAL so I ask those who might know better, is there a reason local retailers couldn't do this? Liability? Supply? I'm just thinking that it would be a great way to drive customer traffic, y'know, "get/submit your permit cards here when you're buying [fuel/food/socks]."


This makes sense, which is why it won't happen. I already get my Northwest Forest Pass and my SnoPark passes at REI, why couldn't I get one of these also? They'll probably try to claim that it's about limiting human impact, and they can't spread X amount of passes amongst Y number of retailers. It's is governmental red tape, after all.
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