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13 year-old on Everest

Postby robgendreau » Thu Apr 08, 2010 3:46 am

A thirteen-year-old is attempting to summit Everest:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... 220D49.DTL

Aside from issues about the danger on such a peak, I'm curious about whether anyone knows about the possible effects of hypoxia on young brains. I'd figure that oxygen deprivation might be worse on a developing neural system, but I'm no doc and we're arguing at work about it. Anyone know?

I'm no fan of the nanny state, and have enjoyed doing some pretty dangerous things in my youth, but you won't find me contributing to the climbing fund.

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Postby Marmaduke » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:19 am

I think the Dad is a disgusting person. The question of hypoxia and the affects on young brains I think is one of the lesser worries. I know he has already hiked some extremely challenging peaks but those should have come in to question as well. If an 18 year old makes this decision, at least he/she is an adult that legally can make that decision. If your in your 20's at least you've lived a little, you're somewhat mature (in terms of life experiences, not disparagng the age group). This kid's brain is capable of making decisions that of a young brain, no more. If he dies up there, will this idiot father say, well he died while doing what he loved?" I mean, people say those things, who have experienced life and are taking risks that mature people, with mature brains can make that call. I'm sorry, if the worse case happens here, I quite frankly think the father and mother should be brought up on murder charges. Some here might think that to be totally crazy, but I just think kids at that age should not have parents either promote, push or support this type of thing. Taking risks as a youngster is one thing, I would put this decision, in a category all to it's own. This is more than just taking a risk.
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Postby Marmaduke » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:29 am

I had mentioned in my post that the parents be brought up on murder charges if the worse happens. Rob, I now notice that you're a lawyer, I don't know your area of expertise but I'll bet you have at your finger tips, if there has been any prior court cases where parents have allowed their juvenile kids to participate in something that has a very real chance of death occurring and death did occurr and what was the outcome in a court of law.
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Postby Jimmie » Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:16 am

Wasn't there a recent case from Belgium or The Netherlands where a 13 year old girl wanted to sail around the world alone? From what I remember the parent who supported this lost custody of the child.
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Postby Mihai Tanase » Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:39 am

Take it easy, guys! In Romania we have same such kind of stupid parents :mrgreen:
http://www.clubulmontanaltitudine.ro/news/home.php
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Postby tigerlilly » Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:15 am

Ah...Your all a bunch of old farts. Can't you remember what it was like to be 13?! hee hee

If your worried about these folks losing brain cells, I think they've already lost some.

I mean, who will carry his Legos? Will he start a Pokemon thread here? What happens if he drops his DS into a crevasse?!

Not to mention, my GAWD, can you imagine?! "Mommmm...where are my mittens?!" , "Momm....the sherpa is being mean to me", "Mommm....I need to puke....Momm....I need to peee......"

Freaking...No Thanks, Man. My kids go to GRANDMA'S HOUSE. I'll bag the peak myself thank you, very much. At least until my kids turn 13 and a half.
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Re: 13 year-old on Everest

Postby Charles » Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:17 am

robgendreau wrote:A thirteen-year-old is attempting to summit Everest:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... 220D49.DTL

Aside from issues about the danger on such a peak, I'm curious about whether anyone knows about the possible effects of hypoxia on young brains. I'd figure that oxygen deprivation might be worse on a developing neural system, but I'm no doc and we're arguing at work about it. Anyone know?

I'm no fan of the nanny state, and have enjoyed doing some pretty dangerous things in my youth, but you won't find me contributing to the climbing fund.

Rob


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Postby dyusem » Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:42 pm

A much better story about the Romero clan here:

http://outside.away.com/outside/culture ... est-1.html
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Postby Gabriele Roth » Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:53 pm

many years ago in Brenta a friend of mine climbed the Fehrmann route to Campanile Basso (D - 5.7) leaded by his son, 11 years old ...
I was there and looking at him (the boy) with admiration : safe, fast, careful, with no effort at all ... I felt envious
... why didn't I started climbing when 9 yo ???

a 13 years old boy surely can climb Everest with less effort and risk than an old (rich) fart leaded by 2 guides and company :D
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Postby visentin » Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:47 pm

This reminds me another similar story:
http://www.summitpost.org/article/50087 ... ents-.html
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Postby Hotoven » Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:51 pm

gabriele wrote:many years ago in Brenta a friend of mine climbed the Fehrmann route to Campanile Basso (D - 5.7) leaded by his son, 11 years old ...
I was there and looking at him (the boy) with admiration : safe, fast, careful, with no effort at all ... I felt envious
... why didn't I started climbing when 9 yo ???

a 13 years old boy surely can climb Everest with less effort and risk than an old (rich) fart leaded by 2 guides and company :D


I don't know if you can compare high altitude climbing with rock climbing in this instance. Isn't it a known fact that the younger a person is, the harder time they have with adapting to high elevation? 8 years ago it was a huge deal for 20-23 year old's climbing Everest. Even though they were in the best shape of their lives and had loads of experience, there was controversy over their age and how they could handle the altitude. I once heard the prime age for high altitude climbing is mid 30's to mid 40's. Not only because you have been climbing longer but you have gained more experience and decision making abilities.

I guess I'm overrating Everest, who am I kidding, you can practically get dragged up on a sled the whole way up if you pay enough. I'm sure he will make it. :D
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Postby talusfinder » Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:00 pm

tigerlilly wrote:Ah...Your all a bunch of old farts. Can't you remember what it was like to be 13?! hee hee

If your worried about these folks losing brain cells, I think they've already lost some.

I mean, who will carry his Legos? Will he start a Pokemon thread here? What happens if he drops his DS into a crevasse?!

Not to mention, my GAWD, can you imagine?! "Mommmm...where are my mittens?!" , "Momm....the sherpa is being mean to me", "Mommm....I need to puke....Momm....I need to peee......"

Freaking...No Thanks, Man. My kids go to GRANDMA'S HOUSE. I'll bag the peak myself thank you, very much. At least until my kids turn 13 and a half.


Are we there yet? How much further? Are we there yet? How much further? Are we there yet? How much further?...
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13 year old on Everest

Postby Cy Kaicener » Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:14 pm

Here is his weblog
http://www.jordanromero.com/weblog
and a list of his sponsors
http://jordanromero.com/sponsors

I hope they carry lots of Oxygen
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Postby Luciano136 » Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:19 pm

LOL They're getting younger every day. If he's done Denali, he shouldn't have any issues doing Everest. Even though I wouldn't encourage it, I don't see a huge problem with it. There's a lot of activities 13y olds do that could be considered dangerous. If he's done Denali and still feels like doing Everest, he must really enjoy it.
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