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Re: about coordinates

Postby gabriele » Mon Nov 08, 2010 6:47 pm

I really would like to understand why from a simple question about a defined subject almost every topic migrates to absolutely off topic problems ...
looks like that when one points to the moon with a finger most people start dibates about the finger :lol:
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Re: about coordinates

Postby CSUMarmot » Mon Nov 08, 2010 6:54 pm

Heres my reasoning for using UTM
The maps I buy have Grid overlays for UTM, when Im bushwhacking and like to have a general idea of where exactly i am, I can find myself within about a 100 meters.
With my GPS i can find my lat long coordinates, but what the hell do they mean? unless you are sitting within half a mile of some crosshairs, you will have no better idea of an exact fix then just guessing.
UTM is based on tens, not sixtys, which might be easier to figure out in the bush
and in the way of distortion, usually when i set out from the TH im not travelling across UTM zones enough for there to be a difference
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Re: about coordinates

Postby CSUMarmot » Mon Nov 08, 2010 6:55 pm

gabriele wrote:I really would like to understand why from a simple question about a defined subject almost every topic migrates to absolutely off topic problems ...
looks like that when one points to the moon with a finger most people start dibates about the finger :lol:

sorry this is my fault but its such a burning topic!
Dammit kid get off mah lawn!!!
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Re: about coordinates

Postby MoapaPk » Mon Nov 08, 2010 6:56 pm

We need the eggs. Actually, the best answer to the OP's question is: "that's the way it is." You can hope that this matter catches the attention of Matt, who has the most chance of making a meaningful change.

In the meantime, the most we can do to help is: to keep this thread bumped to the top by discussing bizarre topics.
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Re: about coordinates

Postby gabriele » Mon Nov 08, 2010 6:58 pm

CSUMarmot wrote:sorry this is my fault but its such a burning topic!

mmmh, that could be a very good reason to start a new one dedicated to your problem :D
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Re: about coordinates

Postby MoapaPk » Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:03 pm

One solution may be to use the bulk uploader
http://www.summitpost.org/summitpost-bu ... #chapter_6

...which currently applies the same lat. and long. (that you specify) to each photo uploaded in bulk.
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Re: about coordinates

Postby Bruno » Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:09 pm

gabriele wrote:looks like that when one points to the moon with a finger most people start dibates about the finger :lol:


Good question, and interesting topic to debate. IMHO it really depends with which finger you point to the moon. One thumb up, forefinger or middle finger, this changes a lot the meaning.
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Re: about coordinates

Postby CSUMarmot » Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:09 pm

MoapaPk wrote:One solution may be to use the bulk uploader
http://www.summitpost.org/summitpost-bu ... #chapter_6

...which currently applies the same lat. and long. (that you specify) to each photo uploaded in bulk.


Im not sure if you fixed his problem but you solved a huge one for me!
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Re: about coordinates

Postby gabriele » Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:22 pm

Bruno_Tibet wrote:Good question, and interesting topic to debate. IMHO it really depends with which finger you point to the moon. One thumb up, forefinger or middle finger, this changes a lot the meaning.
guess which one ... :lol:
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Re: about coordinates

Postby vancouver islander » Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:45 pm

MoapaPk wrote:Naw, I hike near the Nevada-Arizona border (when the weather is cool enough). I also cross a time zone, boy does that cause jet lag, but only in Nov 8-Mach 13.

"Mach 13". No wonder you get jet lag :D
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Re: about coordinates

Postby MoapaPk » Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:59 pm

vancouver islander wrote:"Mach 13". No wonder you get jet lag :D


Good one. Bulk Uploader. Bulk Uploader.
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Re: about coordinates

Postby surgent » Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:48 pm

CSUMarmot wrote:Heres my reasoning for using UTM
The maps I buy have Grid overlays for UTM, when Im bushwhacking and like to have a general idea of where exactly i am, I can find myself within about a 100 meters.
With my GPS i can find my lat long coordinates, but what the hell do they mean? unless you are sitting within half a mile of some crosshairs, you will have no better idea of an exact fix then just guessing.
UTM is based on tens, not sixtys, which might be easier to figure out in the bush
and in the way of distortion, usually when i set out from the TH im not travelling across UTM zones enough for there to be a difference


I use UTM as well. It is easy for pinpointing oneself on the map. I doubt Lat-Long was ever intended for hiking navigation, since it's been around for centuries in some form or another, way before anyone ever dreamed up GPS. It's too broad, but ideal for drivers, skippers and flyers who move fast and cover great swaths of the earth in one go. Early navigation was deeply related to time (especially in tracking longitude). It was natural for minutes and seconds to be carried over in this way.

Face it, you metric people: base-10 just doesn't lend itself to everything! If so, we'd reckon time in base-10. I'm sure it's been tried. We don't "tenth" or "fifth" things in practice, instead we half, quarter, eighth, etc... Non-base-10 has its advantages too. There's nothing magical about 60, either. Anything that can easily be halved, quartered and eighthed easily is probably ideal. Metric is the Esparanto of measure. I like base 8 frankly. We don't need pinky fingers anyway, do we?
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