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Postby graham » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:10 pm

FortMental wrote:what..... no snowball fights? No igloos? No tic tac toe with piss? No toboggan speed records? Naked snow angels? Kite skiing? Giant mega snowball?
I think most of those happened the previous weekend :D
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Postby Luciano136 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:17 pm

TacoDelRio wrote:Bruno, I love your use of the word clown. +50 points. :lol:


LOL I mean, it does get old, geesh!
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Postby H2SO4 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:37 pm

I don't normally find myself being part of the PC police, but as mountaineers, I don't think we should laugh at or be annoyed by people that do risky things for fun (sledding at Manker Flats). Getting hurt sledding is not any stupider than getting hurt climbing something really awesome, and it's easier and less risky for the rescuers to drive an ambulance to Manker Flats than to fly a helicopter to somewhere really awesome. Climbing is not an inherently superior activity to sledding, so given that we all climb knowing that there's some risk that we'll get stuck or hurt and require rescue, I think we should lay off people that require an ambulance for other reasons.
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Postby Luciano136 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:44 pm

H2SO4 wrote:I don't normally find myself being part of the PC police, but as mountaineers, I don't think we should laugh at or be annoyed by people that do risky things for fun (sledding at Manker Flats). Getting hurt sledding is not any stupider than getting hurt climbing something really awesome, and it's easier and less risky for the rescuers to drive an ambulance to Manker Flats than to fly a helicopter to somewhere really awesome. Climbing is not an inherently superior activity to sledding, so given that we all climb knowing that there's some risk that we'll get stuck or hurt and require rescue, I think we should lay off people that require an ambulance for other reasons.


Have you ever been to Manker Flats after significant snow? I'm not kidding when I say it's ridiculous! If having your kids sledding onto the road is not a stupid thing to do, then I don't know what is LOL

That said, there's an easy fix. Get up there early and get out early and the zoo can be avoided.
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Postby simonov » Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:58 pm

H2SO4 wrote:I don't normally find myself being part of the PC police, but as mountaineers, I don't think we should laugh at or be annoyed by people that do risky things for fun (sledding at Manker Flats). Getting hurt sledding is not any stupider than getting hurt climbing something really awesome,


If the kids aren't getting hurt while sledding, they're doing it wrong.
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Postby lasvegaswraith » Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:54 am

H2SO4 wrote:I don't normally find myself being part of the PC police, but as mountaineers, I don't think we should laugh at or be annoyed by people that do risky things for fun (sledding at Manker Flats). Getting hurt sledding is not any stupider than getting hurt climbing something really awesome, and it's easier and less risky for the rescuers to drive an ambulance to Manker Flats than to fly a helicopter to somewhere really awesome. Climbing is not an inherently superior activity to sledding, so given that we all climb knowing that there's some risk that we'll get stuck or hurt and require rescue, I think we should lay off people that require an ambulance for other reasons.


I hear you, but it gets goofy up there when there's snow. Trust me, these guys rocket down a 100' steep hill right into the road, on top of double parked cars everywhere. It's nuts - but I get what you're sayin'.
BTW...you wear gloves with that acid?
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Postby mtndonkey » Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:15 am

Yeah it gets seriously retarded up there. We were up there the day before Christmas and inquired from a group of hikers (one in pajama pants, another in what appeared to be house slippers) if they had crampons or any gear to be heading up past the ski hut. They said they had done the trail before and would be fine. We watched them head out and within minutes trying to crawl back on their stomachs as they continued to slide downhill. I also marvel at the the parents who stand at the bottom of the hill across from manker flats and try and catch their kids before they fly full speed into the boulder field directly at the bottom of the hill.

I agree that clown is the right term and award Bruno an additional 50 points.
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Postby chugach mtn boy » Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:47 am

H2SO4 wrote: Getting hurt sledding is not any stupider than getting hurt climbing something really awesome .... Climbing is not an inherently superior activity to sledding, so given that we all climb knowing that there's some risk .... we should lay off people that require an ambulance for other reasons.

+1.
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Postby LazyrLegs » Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:55 am

Yup - I was up there on Sat too, and I was behind the guy laying skid marks via brake pads. Took me another 30 minutes to get the stink outta my car! And they have to be reminded to use the turn-outs.

EMS has taken to saving their energies, instead parking up at Manker on those busy w/e days. Good training!

Nice "How Not To" photo set!
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Postby drjohnso1182 » Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:58 am

Gary Schenk wrote:
redneck wrote:
H2SO4 wrote:I don't normally find myself being part of the PC police, but as mountaineers, I don't think we should laugh at or be annoyed by people that do risky things for fun (sledding at Manker Flats). Getting hurt sledding is not any stupider than getting hurt climbing something really awesome,


If the kids aren't getting hurt while sledding, they're doing it wrong.


That was always our philosophy back in Indiana. You had to, at a bare minimum, crack a rib just to maintain your street cred.

I think parents try to use sledding as a way to get rid of unwanted children. Thanks to sledding "accidents", I've been knocked unconscious, bruised a couple ribs, and busted up my face bad enough to need stitches (teeth through the lip, etc.). The worst I've had climbing is some scrapes and bruises. I'm not sure if that says less about my sledding or my climbing :oops:
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