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Buckles on Double Plastic Boots?

Postby Thomp » Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:32 am

So I am struggling with my beloved plastic boots... I Love them but it is a b#$%# getting them tight every morning in the tent with hands that are starting to freeze in the Alaskan winter. I have two big trips this spring and I am contemplating having two ski buckles installed on the plastic shell to help the situation... Any thoughts or experiance with this?
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Re: Buckles on Double Plastic Boots?

Postby ExcitableBoy » Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:23 pm

Lowa made a buckled double plastic boot called the Quantum. Reviewers complained the buckles were too bulky for techinical climbing. The boot did not enjoy a super successful run. If you could find some of the plastic, ratching type buckles that are fairly low profile that might work better. Or what about using 1/2" flat webbing and ladder lock buckles? That would be lower profile yet pretty easy to just yank down tight.
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Re: Buckles on Double Plastic Boots?

Postby alpinejason » Mon Mar 07, 2011 4:39 pm

how about the boa lacing system? might be hard to get your hands on a pair for the retrofit. sleeker than buckles though.
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Re: Buckles on Double Plastic Boots?

Postby DukeJH » Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:13 pm

My issue with buckles are the compatability with crampons. The ratcheting buckle idea is intriguing. Maybe something like on a snowboard binding?
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Re: Buckles on Double Plastic Boots?

Postby ExcitableBoy » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:51 pm

I was looking at my old Scarpa Tambo 2 buckle AT boots when I wrote that. I think the diffculty would center around attching the buckles. They are riveted through the plastic shell and I am not sure the plastic used in climbing boots would be strong enough to hold the large rivets or if it would compromise the durability.
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Re: Buckles on Double Plastic Boots?

Postby Kai » Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:10 pm

I've been wanting this for a long time now. I had a pair of Quantums. I didn't have any issues with the buckles being too bulky for technical climbing. My problem was with the fit. I think they built those boots on a unique last. The heels were really wide, and there was a lot of heel lift and a very sloppy fit overall. Had they been lasted like the Civetta, and fit like the Civetta, they would have been great boots.

There have been a LOT of advances over the past decade with lightweight buckles in alpine touring boots. I don't know why they can't import some of that know-how into the alpine boot arena.
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