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Postby Diego Sahagún » Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:40 pm

Is there any drug for retarding the change from sympathetic nervous system to parasympathetic nervous system :?:

I feel that I get worse in the last hours of the day because of that change
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Postby Diego Sahagún » Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:55 pm

Well :?: Cafeine :?:
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Postby tigerlilly » Mon Sep 13, 2010 3:28 pm

I'm not sure I understand what you are asking - more info pls?
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Postby MoapaPk » Mon Sep 13, 2010 3:44 pm

? Caffeine will certainly stimulate one parasympathetic response, namely urination. What are you trying to do? Is there a parasympathetic response that is bothering you?
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Postby Diego Sahagún » Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:47 pm

Sore, I feel pain when my parasympathetic system is running so it awakes me all nights
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Postby MoapaPk » Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:20 pm

Most of what the parasympathetic system does is regulate stuff like digestion and release of body wastes. You need some degree of peristalsis and bladder-fullness urge. Some OTC drugs will slow some of these -- e.g. Immodium -- but there are obvious unpleasant consequences if used for more than a day or two.

Maybe you can be quiescent for a few hours before bedtime, so most parasympathetic activities will be under way before you go to bed (i.e., do NOT work in flight-o-fight mode right up till bedtime). One cultural aspect of Spain, that is sure to keep the parasympathetic system well under way: the tendency to eat late at night.

I'm still really unsure what you mean, and as we say often on SP: you really should be talking to your doctor about this. Perhaps s/he can prescribe a simple relaxant, or something like Lunesta, to make sleep easier and less disturbed.

Can you do any stretching? I certainly wouldn't want someone with a cervical injury to stretch the neck. But gradual stretching of the large muscles (e.g. the legs: http://www.abc-of-yoga.com/yogapractice/legpulls.asp) releases endorphins to relax the body.
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Postby Diego Sahagún » Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:52 pm

I use to be quiescent before going to bed. Sometimes I sit in front of my computer no more than an hour and other I watch TV on my bed. I have dinner late but I usually go to bed late as well. Next week I'll visit a masseuse that my brother and mom say is light using her hands. I'll tell you then.

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Postby Diego Sahagún » Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:39 am

Moapa, I don't know why do you think it's something nervous. Well, it's a nervous pain but it is not because I get nervous when sleeping or going to bed. BTW, I'm taking a muscle relaxant, Myolastan
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Postby tigerlilly » Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:11 am

I'm still not clear on something. Are you saying that you wake up in the middle of the night from back pain? Or are you having trouble getting to sleep? Or are you feeling weird side effects from a medication you are taking? What is it your trying to control?
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Postby Diego Sahagún » Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:32 am

tigerlilly wrote:I'm still not clear on something. Are you saying that you wake up in the middle of the night from back pain? Or are you having trouble getting to sleep? Or are you feeling weird side effects from a medication you are taking? What is it your trying to control?

I'm awaking in the middle of the night from back pain. Sometimes twice a night :?
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Postby RayMondo » Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:10 pm

Diego Sahagún wrote:I know it Ray, thank you very much anyway


Ha, I can talk. I recently twinged a spinal disc, myself, giving me pain in the hip and tingling in the leg. Good news is it's healing. Playing it sensibly by excercising, walking, resting. Though I reason it goes back a long way, since I was a teenager and mixed zillions of tons of cement by hand. I triggered it by jerking a box from the ground. Stupid. Though it's a good lesson, as I'll soon be back in strong shape and will be all the wiser. :)
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Postby RayMondo » Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:21 pm

Something for the back pain, and other joint, muscular pain, I use Arnica cream and or, Ruta Grav natural remedy creams. Arnica seems best for muscular, and Ruta Grav better for joints. Worked pretty good.

In case getting to sleep is a problem for anyone. True, don't be mentally active before bedtime, don't eat too near bedtime, avoid stimulants, tea, coffee.

Sleep remedies: Warm milk, lettuce is a knockout. Can also use a lavender pot pourri, or lavender spray in the room.

Matress: You can add a 1-inch-thick "memory foam" matress on top of your existing one. This provides more support to the spine, especially if you sleep on your side.
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Postby tigerlilly » Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:07 pm

lettuce helps you sleep?!
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Postby MoapaPk » Sat Sep 18, 2010 1:28 am

tigerlilly wrote:lettuce helps you sleep?!


Sure, the kind that folds in your wallet. Lettuce pray.
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Postby Diego Sahagún » Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:10 am

My doctor has added a corticosteroid (Deflazacort) to my intake and wants me to take 600 mg / 24 h of Pregabalin. I could enter in a hospital pain unit soon. I think that joking about lettuce here is not a good idea

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