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Re: California Ice Conditions

Postby SoCalHiker » Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:36 am

Vitaliy M wrote:I think as long as this thread stays civil and goal oriented we can keep it without heavy moderation, no?


couldn't agree more

now back to the ice
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Re: California Ice Conditions

Postby The Chief » Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:14 am

ChrisCal wrote:I'm way more local than you realize.


If that was true, then you would in fact know that this was a coop idea/venture and that several "local" entities are involved in this trial operation. That SCE & LADWP were both contacted and both gave it a 100% approval and consider it a great idea.

Again, thank you all for your support in maintaining and doing all we can do to keep an open ACCESS to this very limited privately owned area.
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Re: California Ice Conditions

Postby kevin trieu » Sat Jan 15, 2011 6:50 am

in the past five years or so that i have been in Lee Vining Canyon, I don't remember seeing wands, trail markers and whatnot. things have been fine. place is still accessible by all. if it ain't broken, don't fix it.
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Re: California Ice Conditions

Postby The Chief » Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:23 pm

kevin trieu wrote:in the past five years or so that i have been in Lee Vining Canyon, I don't remember seeing wands, trail markers and whatnot. things have been fine. place is still accessible by all. if it ain't broken, don't fix it.


Bigger issues with the LM's, that you nor many of the other folks here (that are selfishly whining about this) that only visit and take for granted, once or twice a season, and know nothing about, are in fact at a stalemate. This is a positive gesture as well as a follow through on the LMs recommendations, in doing so, building a better ACCESS rapport (again, has primarily nothing to do with yours or the other climbers, accessibility) with the LM's, SCE & LADWP. Plans are in the brew for increasing the source supply in order to enlarge/expand the area coverage, two fold.

There is a much bigger picture involved here other than YOUR once or twice a season visits, Trieu. I do not expect you nor many of the other younger "entitled" generation to even come close in understanding this concept.
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Re: California Ice Conditions

Postby The Chief » Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:11 am

Kevin Trieu came on here an two hours or so ago and accused me of belaying drunk and almost dropping my partner while climbing in the "Gorge" amongst other defaming situs.

I demand that Kevin Trieu post up names of any individuals that personally witnessed them and the dates when these supposed incidents occurred.


Here is a complete list of all my partners for the past ten years, that I have and currently climb with in the "Gorge" and locally here on the Eastside. Each one will come on here if need be and verify that neither of the above incidents could have ever happened as I do not drink (sobriety date of 10 May 2000) and I that take my climbing safety with a tenacity beyond most.

Bruce Bartlett, Mammoth Lakes CA
Ned Bair, Mammoth Lakes, CA
Derek Bromholt, Olancha, CA
Jamie Bustamante, Mammoth Lakes, CA
Deb Castro, Temecula, CA
Dave Daly, Temecula, CA
Guy Keesee, Moorpark, CA
Em Holland, Paradise, CA
Mark Maciaszek, Mammoth Lakes, CA
Kris Solem, Monrovia, CA
Kurt Wedberg, Bishop, CA

To come on here and accuse anyone of the bullshit you did, Kevin Trieu, you best be able to back them up.

Do so... Now!
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Re: California Ice Conditions

Postby kevin trieu » Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:30 am

The Chief wrote:Kevin Trieu came on here an two hours or so ago and accused me of belaying drunk and almost dropping my partner while climbing in the "Gorge" amongst other defaming situs.

I demand that Kevin Trieu post up names of any individuals that personally witnessed them and the dates when these supposed incidents occurred.


Here is a complete list of all my partners for the past ten years, that I have and currently climb with in the "Gorge" and locally here on the Eastside. Each one will come on here if need be and verify that neither of the above incidents could have ever happened as I do not drink (sobriety date of 10 May 2000) and I that take my climbing safety with a tenacity beyond most.

Bruce Bartlett, Mammoth Lakes CA
Ned Bair, Mammoth Lakes, CA
Derek Bromholt, Olancha, CA
Jamie Bustamante, Mammoth Lakes, CA
Deb Castro, Temecula, CA
Dave Daly, Temecula, CA
Guy Keesee, Moorpark, CA
Em Holland, Paradise, CA
Mark Maciaszek, Mammoth Lakes, CA
Kris Solem, Monrovia, CA
Kurt Wedberg, Bishop, CA

To come on here and accuse anyone of the bullshit you did, Kevin Trieu, you best be able to back them up.

Do so... Now!


you got my post deleted real quick. since the post was deleted, things will be taken out of context. if you are going to a fucking loudmouth on here and otherwise, people are going to call you out on it. they are just accusations, right? what are the other accusations? this is the internet, stop taking it so seriously, right?

since more posts will be deleted and there will be more loopholes in the thread, there's no point in posting anything lengthy.
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Re: California Ice Conditions

Postby SoCalHiker » Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:32 am

Rob wrote:
SoCalHiker wrote:
Vitaliy M wrote:I think as long as this thread stays civil and goal oriented we can keep it without heavy moderation, no?


couldn't agree more

now back to the ice



Hikers moderating climbers discussions...something wrong with this site. :roll:


Personal attacks and accusations have nothing to do with climbing... even hikers understand the difference
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Re: California Ice Conditions

Postby The Chief » Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:32 am

For anyone to come on here in the General Forum and falsely accuse anyone of the incidents that Kevin Trieu did, is Wrong!

Regardless of how Kevin Trieu feels about me, what he posted was unjustified, unsubstantiated and totally inappropriate. And in complete violation of SP posting rules and regulations.

I demand that Kevin Trieu back up these horseshit defaming accusations now or apologize for his outlandish and completely invalid claims. Post up Names and Dates Kevin Trieu... now!

I DID NOT HAVE ANYONE DELETE ANY POST!

Thank you.
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Re: California Ice Conditions

Postby SoCalHiker » Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:34 am

I asked everybody nicely a few times. If you simply can't stick to the topic this thread will be in OR very soon.
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Re: California Ice Conditions

Postby kevin trieu » Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:53 am

I would hate to see this thread deleted. We all love ice and but some enjoy it differently. Please do not delete this thread. Since the moderators have deleted most of my posts, feel free to delete the rest. Judging by the number of posts vs the amount of time I spent here on SP, it tells you how much I give a shit about posting on here. No one comes out playing in the pigsty clean.
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Re: California Ice Conditions

Postby The Chief » Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:18 am

kevin trieu wrote:No one comes out playing in the pigsty clean.


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The only "pigsty" here is that which was in your deleted post accusing me of things that are completely defamatory, unsubstantiated and totally untrue.


I recommend that you go take a good long look into the nearest mirror prior to publicly calling me on my integrity and character.
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Re: California Ice Conditions

Postby rhyang » Sun Jan 16, 2011 7:11 pm

Just saw a friend's pic of Moonage Daydream from this past Thursday. Drool, drool -- looked pretty nice.

But that was before the warming trend ..
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Re: California Ice Conditions

Postby The Chief » Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:44 am

Shane Rathbun wrote: Do you remember shredder?


You bet... great guy! Took him and his son up some mods in TM a couple of years back. He knows I am always willing an able to tie into a rope with him. Lot's of fun to be around as well!!!

Next time ya see him, tell him to email me. He owes me another day or two in the Meadows.

SHREDDER's STORE
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Re: California Ice Conditions

Postby The Chief » Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:51 am

Like I said, tell him he owes me a day or two in the Meadows.

I promised him that I would get him up the Reg Route safely as he has always wanted to get on and then finish it.

The Reg Route is waiting for him.....
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