PDelfin wrote:Myself and three others guys with limited (almost no) climbing experience, will be climbing Pico de Orizaba after Christmas. Any suggestions on gear needed for a climb like this? Planning on bringing crampons and ice axe, but didn't know if rope would be needed. Additionally, any suggestions on routes and use of the huts would be appreciated. The less gear we have to bring , the better. Thanks,
bird wrote:Don't need rope, do need axe and crampons and helmet.
parky wrote:bird wrote:Don't need rope, do need axe and crampons and helmet.
How significant is the stonefall risk - presumably all in the labyrinth? In our planning for next month's trip we balanced risk versus weight and opted against helmets. (Didn't want to lug a dome from the UK in a backpack for three weeks for one route if it wasn't really necessary, but realise that no amount of previous alpine experience makes up for a lump of rock on the head) If really needed could we hire helmets from Snr Reyes or other outlets in Tlachichua or Coscomatepec?
I've never read of teams doing a complete circumnavigation of the crater rim. Any ideas of additional time or difficulty?
Day Hiker wrote:I have decided that if I go to Orizaba again, I will definitely sleep in a tent instead of the hut. I don't sleep well with groups of people. All it takes is for one person to snore, and I am not going to sleep that night. And with 8 to 12 people in the hut, the probability of someone snoring is significant. And even if nobody else is making noise, I am self-conscious about every little noise my sleeping bag and I make. Unless there is some background noise, like wind in trees or flowing water, the silence thing is definitely a problem for me when trying to sleep with a group.
For the Jamapa Glacier route, one gets a ride up to the hut and starting point (Piedra Grande), so bringing a tent is no extra hiking work. And I remember that we got a ride up to Piedra Grande well before dark, so there is plenty of time to find a clean site and setup a tent.
And the temperatures there were not too bad at all for sleeping in a tent, as long as one has the proper sleeping gear. And a similar warm bag would be needed inside the hut anyway.
My feelings on this may be unusual, but I know I am not the only person with complaints about group sleeping. I have talked to people with similar complaints about sleeping in the guided groups' hut at the saddle on Grand Teton. Luckily for me, I slept outside the hut for The Grand. But according to my friend's story, snoring people and lack of personal hygeine made for quite an awful experience in the hut there.
Mike Swiz wrote:Just one question for you though. What are you doing sleeping away from home anyway Day Hiker.
Athos791 wrote:I am going to Orizaba in january, and am hoping to be able to head up to the pyramids after my trip. From what i hear (correct me if i'm wrong) they are the biggest pyramids outside of egypt in the world. They are just about an hour north of mexico city.
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