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Re: Hiking in hunting season

Postby Nitrox » Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:24 pm

Wow, all kinds of hypocrisy in this thread.

Have fun guys, I've gotta go drill a bunch of holes in rock, throw my shit all over the ground, and then call search and rescue to pick my broken ass up.
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Re: Hiking in hunting season

Postby fatdad » Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:29 pm

Nitrox wrote:Wow, all kinds of hypocrisy in this thread.

Have fun guys, I've gotta go drill a bunch of holes in rock, throw my shit all over the ground, and then call search and rescue to pick my broken ass up.


Wow, all kinds of red herrings in this post. Not sure what any of it has to do with anything in this thread.
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Re: Hiking in hunting season

Postby Nitrox » Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:44 pm

fatdad wrote:
Nitrox wrote:Wow, all kinds of hypocrisy in this thread.

Have fun guys, I've gotta go drill a bunch of holes in rock, throw my shit all over the ground, and then call search and rescue to pick my broken ass up.


Wow, all kinds of red herrings in this post. Not sure what any of it has to do with anything in this thread.


You'd think climbers of all people wouldn't want to paint with such a broad brush considering all of the stupid shit that has taken place in the climbing community over the years.
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Re: Hiking in hunting season

Postby fatdad » Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:54 pm

Yup, lots of incidents of climbers placing bolts in people thinking they were rocks.
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Re: Hiking in hunting season

Postby Nitrox » Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:01 am

fatdad wrote:Yup, lots of incidents of climbers placing bolts in people thinking they were rocks.


Didn't you already mention a red herring?
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Re: Hiking in hunting season

Postby lcarreau » Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:56 am

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Re: Hiking in hunting season

Postby Cascade Scrambler » Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:26 pm

Nitrox wrote:
fatdad wrote:
Nitrox wrote:Wow, all kinds of hypocrisy in this thread.

Have fun guys, I've gotta go drill a bunch of holes in rock, throw my shit all over the ground, and then call search and rescue to pick my broken ass up.


Wow, all kinds of red herrings in this post. Not sure what any of it has to do with anything in this thread.


You'd think climbers of all people wouldn't want to paint with such a broad brush considering all of the stupid shit that has taken place in the climbing community over the years.


There's an enormous difference between being lumped in with someone who got lost or injured, and being lumped in with a group of people where one or two idiots has shot someone. Call me wreckless if you must, but because I don't carry in the mountains, I'm in no danger of shooting someone.
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Re: Hiking in hunting season

Postby mrchad9 » Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:20 am

The issue is hunters endanger others. Significantly. Climbers endanger themselves.
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Re: Hiking in hunting season

Postby Tanngrisnir3 » Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:15 pm

mrchad9 wrote:The issue is hunters endanger others. Significantly. Climbers endanger themselves.


And potentially those below them.
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Re: Hiking in hunting season

Postby MoapaPk » Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:57 pm

Tanngrisnir3 wrote:And potentially those below them.


Is that a physics pun?
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Re: Hiking in hunting season

Postby Fury » Thu Nov 04, 2010 2:56 am

mrchad9 wrote:The issue is hunters endanger others. Significantly. Climbers endanger themselves.


I suppose it depends on what you mean by "significant". Is there a high probability (i.e. significant) that a hunter will endanger you? No. Is the potential consequence of a irresponsible hunter high (or significant)? Yes.

Note that climbers can endanger that SAR workers when they are called upon.

I climb and I hunt. I try my very best to cautious in both activities. I never put my finger on the trigger until my intended target has been properly identified. Similarly, I when I climb I always double check my harness and knots etc.
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Re: Hiking in hunting season

Postby mrchad9 » Thu Nov 04, 2010 3:08 am

Fury wrote:
mrchad9 wrote:The issue is hunters endanger others. Significantly. Climbers endanger themselves.

I suppose it depends on what you mean by "significant". Is there a high probability (i.e. significant) that a hunter will endanger you? No. Is the potential consequence of a irresponsible hunter high (or significant)? Yes.

I was talking about severity, not frequency. Get your ankle broken, big deal. Get executed, bigger deal.

Fury wrote:Note that climbers can endanger that SAR workers when they are called upon.

REALLY!!! I did not know that!

But is isn't the same. SAR workers are chosing to put themselves in that situation- they are not forced into dangerous conditions. They are well aware of the immediate risk and if it is beyond an acceptable level they will not attempt the rescue. A woman hanging clothes in her own yard should not be expected to anticipate a hunter hiding the the bushes might decide to take a shot at her.
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Re: Hiking in hunting season

Postby Fury » Thu Nov 04, 2010 3:39 am

mrchad9 wrote:I was talking about severity, not frequency. Get your ankle broken, big deal. Get executed, bigger deal.


I agree. But the chances are low. For what it's worth, I believe that anyone handling a firearm should be held accountable for their actions.
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Re: Hiking in hunting season

Postby Arthur Digbee » Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:38 am

Fury wrote:For what it's worth, I believe that anyone handling a firearm should be held accountable for their actions.


There's something wrong in a community that might believe otherwise.

Ditto for people handling lots of other things - - motor vehicles, kitchen knives, internet discussion boards . . . .
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