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Re: How many SP members does it take to change a lightbulb?

Postby SeanReedy » Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:14 am

7 to post about efficient lightbulbs reducing global warming
3 to post reminders about previous posts regarding improper disposal of lightbulbs being a blight on the environment
4 to argue about whether efficiency or proper disposal is more important to the environment
1 to bring up newer efficient lightbulbs that are less hazardous to handle and dispose of than the previous generation of bulbs
1 to ask which lightbulbs would be recommended for children
3 to post about longevity of different types of lightbulbs
1 to call everyone a bunch of hippies
3 to deny human involvement in global warming
3 to post rants denying global warming altogether
1 to make emotional appeals about bears

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Re: How many SP members does it take to change a lightbulb?

Postby Wastral » Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:07 am

SeanReedy wrote:7 to post about efficient lightbulbs reducing global warming
3 to post reminders about previous posts regarding improper disposal of lightbulbs being a blight on the environment
4 to argue about whether efficiency or proper disposal is more important to the environment
1 to bring up newer efficient lightbulbs that are less hazardous to handle and dispose of than the previous generation of bulbs
1 to ask which lightbulbs would be recommended for children
3 to post about longevity of different types of lightbulbs
1 to call everyone a bunch of hippies
3 to deny human involvement in global warming
3 to post rants denying global warming altogether
1 to make emotional appeals about bears

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None of the above. Develop new insulation for the use in refrigerators/freezers/houses that is cheaper. Oh wait, it already exists in the form of micro balloons... Whining about lighting efficiencies is laughable. Lighting is all of 5%-15% of your electric usage at most.

If you really want to save energy, Make heat pumps cheaper and more affordable to install in homes. IE get rid of the damned regulations demanding insane COP values. For those who don't know what a heat pump is, you put 1 Watt of power in and get say, 3-5 Watts of power out through the use of Geothermal wells(takes about 2 per household), or using differential air temperature, or the sun. What is sad is that the regulations demand a high Coeffient of Performance. If there was such a thing as justice as long as it has a COP greater than 1 is should be allowed. IE any COP greater than 1 will save power. Instead most states demand a COP of 3 or greater. All I can say is that some manufacturer of electrical whole home heaters must have a strong lobby group.

The above would chop off about 50% of our electrical usage or more.

Arguing about lighting is laughable. Only because the average Jack/Jill can see the lighting somehow makes this miniscule usage of electricity a viable topic in which to "save" energy.
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Re: How many SP members does it take to change a lightbulb?

Postby lcarreau » Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:16 am

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Re: How many SP members does it take to change a lightbulb?

Postby SeanReedy » Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:35 am

Wastral, nice theoretical tips, but something is laughable all right. :wink:

1 to write a long post after skipping the first page of the thread and missing out on old global warming battles on SP? :?: :wink: :lol:
1 to give thanks for the lecture

Seriously though, I'm not disuaded from getting efficient, long-lasting lightbulbs as long as I get a good deal on them. It ain't because of global warming either. Every bit spent on electricity and short lived lightbulbs adds up over time. I hardly use my heater nor air conditioner, but my refrigerator uses some juice despite being pretty well rated and new.
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Re: How many SP members does it take to change a lightbulb?

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Re: How many SP members does it take to change a lightbulb?

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Re: How many SP members does it take to change a lightbulb?

Postby MoapaPk » Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:47 am

Pretty sneaky how they replaced the heavy magnetic ballasts in CFLs with electronic ballasts, and now zap the filament to decrease the start time... which also makes the bulbs burn out really quickly (in comparison to old CFLs). OH wait, not serious. Carry on.

The whole CFL thing is a smokescreen to get China to reopen the cinnabar mines, thereby poisoning the populace, removing a competitor. Once the Chinese CFL manufacturers are out of the picture, the ruthless Swedish CFL cartel will be unstoppable. You can take that to the bank. Or, you can shove it up your ass. Or someone else' ass, if that person is a consenting adult; summitpost does not discriminate based on lifestyle choices. (But occasionally we shoot bolters, or non-bolters, people who say "Sierras," those who use laundry markers or dental floss to desecrate ropes.) This is definitely tied to the tri-lateral commission.

Meanwhile, read up on the symptoms of mercury posioning, e.g. hair loss, emotional lability, memory impairment, and / or insomnia. Ask yourself: have any of these symptoms increased since I joined SP? Are CFLs really worth it? Personally, I've never had emotional lability, but for some reason this thread is making me cry, and alternately laugh, and STOP STARING AT ME LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I MEAN.

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Re: How many SP members does it take to change a lightbulb?

Postby SeanReedy » Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:10 am

As for Al Gore, I'm glad we didn't forget the man without whom SP could not exist, even though he does tend to overheat global warming threads. Besides spending too much time on SP, my wife thought I had lost my mind when I came home with a dozen or so CFLightbulbs and a Nobel Prize on some rebate deal from Costco. Geez, maybe I have.

Speaking of politicians, maybe an SP member will do the math for me on how many tax dollars were spent on laws, rebates programs, and campaigns promoting efficient lightbulbs and their proper disposal. I bet heat pumps and micro baloons aren't the only things we could come up with spending it on instead. Maybe funds could go toward:
-SAR crews rescuing hikers who are too tired to walk out
-Additional rangers designated for ticketing drivers of 4WD vehicles who fail to carry chains in Yosemite
-Adding an additional cable to Half Dome
-Adding more staff to manage additional permit systems indiscriminately designated throughout the Sierra
-Picnic tables for bears
-Habitat protection for lone wolves
-Educational programs to prevent species such as cougars from being treated like crap.
-Full healthcare coverage and generous pensions for the numerous staff who specialize in checking and replacing efficient lightbulbs in heated bathrooms with flush toilets at remote state park trailheads
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Re: How many SP members does it take to change a lightbulb?

Postby Matt Lemke » Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:19 am

1 to read this and now know exactly how to change said lightbulb
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Re: How many SP members does it take to change a lightbulb?

Postby Baarb » Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:17 am

15 to start working their way through changing lightbulbs in every US county, doing it again in winter, then in as fast a time as possible.
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Re: How many SP members does it take to change a lightbulb?

Postby Kiefer » Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:07 am

Damn, Scott. Must be a REALLY slow day at work.
Which came first?

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WHOLE different spin on, "...screwing in a light bulb." :shock:
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Re: How many SP members does it take to change a lightbulb?

Postby lcarreau » Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:06 am

SeanReedy wrote:-Picnic tables for bears ...



AH - HA -- HAAAA :wink:

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Re: How many SP members does it take to change a lightbulb?

Postby WebTraveler » Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:17 am

My Favorite: One forum lurker six months from now to start it all over again......

Really aggrevating to read an interesting title, only to discover it was a forum discussion two years ago, for cryin' outloud! There ought to be a cutoff date, or something.

None the less, this should have been an "article". Too good to waste on the Forum.
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Re: How many SP members does it take to change a lightbulb?

Postby SeanReedy » Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:12 am

lcarreau wrote:
SeanReedy wrote:-Picnic tables for bears ...



AH - HA -- HAAAA :wink:

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Ya know, all this reminiscence is giving me some chuckles.

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Re: How many SP members does it take to change a lightbulb?

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