by madeintahoe » Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:54 pm
by climbinmandan » Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:35 pm
by lcarreau » Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:47 pm
by climbinmandan » Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:50 pm
by lcarreau » Wed Apr 06, 2011 7:00 pm
climbinmandan wrote:I agree Larry. The cold, clear fact is that gray wolves are thriving a little too well in Idaho, and the rest of the ecosystem is suffering as a result. By the way, I haven't seen all that much hysteria in Boise. Most people here understand what wildlife management entails.
by builttospill » Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:44 pm
climbinmandan wrote:You have to understand... the gray wolf is not a native species to Idaho, and since its introduction to our state it has decimated many other native species. Just like any other species, it must be controlled. The Fish and Game of any state monitors populations of most species and gives out a set number of hunting tags in order to manage the wildlife.
Also, there is no false blame being placed upon wolves. Fish and Game researchers monitor herd sizes of all big game animals in Idaho and there is a noticeable change in the elk and mule deer populations. Some estimates by the Idaho Fish and Game state that elk will be nearly extinct in our state within 10 years. In order to be good stewards of nature, we must recognize alarming trends such as this, and work to change them. I'm sorry if the idea of killing things that look like household pets disturbs you, but it is absolutely necessary from an conservationist's perspective.
by builttospill » Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:48 pm
by splattski » Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:55 pm
by lcarreau » Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:42 am
To everyone outside of Idaho, most of them look like raving lunatics.
by climbinmandan » Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:44 am
by lcarreau » Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:04 am
by builttospill » Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:09 am
climbinmandan wrote:These studies, which are not published, give evidence to the fact that far fewer elk are reaching adulthood.
So as of now, no, populations are not entirely endangered, but the problem is that the statistics that tell you the current size do not tell you the ages of the herd.
climbinmandan wrote:Gray wolves were not IN the state of Idaho until they were introduced in 1995. Determining whether they were originally here many many years ago is just speculation.
by splattski » Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:14 am
by lcarreau » Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:18 am
by climbinmandan » Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:32 am
splattski wrote:Gray wolves were in Idaho when Lewis and Clark passed through. They just weren't from Canada, as far as we know.
builttospill wrote:The Fish and Game folks have a similar incentive. Bureaucracies, in general, want more authority, and certainly the wildlife officials I've talked to at the state level want to manage wolves themselves--whatever their motives are, they want the responsibility.
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