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Is it Ethical to “Fix” a climb?

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Postby Guyzo » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:19 pm

ShortTimer wrote:I think you should probably spend the next 6 weekends fixing all the routes there.

There is that one 12c that has all the holds between the 2nd and 3rd bolts artificially cut into the rock but I can't reach the finish hold off the chopped ones, will you please chop a new hold for me while you are at it?


Jan, You know I don't roll that way. :shock:

I did watch that little Russian cute, fire that one first try!

And she was about 5.3 tall, so whats your problem? :wink:

You will need to take care of that one. But please chop it down to 5.8 please. :wink:

I guess I'll go get written permission....

Kris..... got any 1/2", 5 piece deals in your gear bag?
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Postby ksolem » Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:42 pm

I'll try one more time.

The "ethic" is this: The route, once created, is climbed bottom to top without any dangling. That makes it "established." After that any changes to the route are due to wear and tear, or if done deliberately are decided by some sort of consensus.

Guyzo - you can use my drill, I hauled the rig out of the Needles day before yesterday with Randy's help. You'll have to provide the hardware though. The only 1/2" stuff I have belongs to asca.

I'll work up that Josh list for y'all in a couple daze...
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