Gary Schenk wrote:tom johnson wrote:So, for me, a guide is the only option left. I'm reluctant to extend the time out a few years as I flatten the learning curve because I'm a week away from 61 and want to get moving.
Go for the guide, Tom. There's no shame attached to that. Not only will you have the time of your life up there, but you'll learn a lot, too. Nothing wrong with that.
I have never used Guides because I mostly rock climb. I have used AID from Packers to get all that stuff to the base..... save your legs for the climbing.
I have a friend, who can trad lead 5.11-a on a good day, who uses them when he goes to Canada for Ice Climbing. He says it's very "cost effective" because Barry has all this great gear/clothing he breaks out for those sub-zero days, knows the way to the climbs, knows the conditions of the snow and ice and he will let my friend lead pitches if he wants to. When my friend returns from Canada he has for sure climbed "tripple XXX death Ice smear", but we don't really give him props for it because he used a guide.
I can sum it up like this: If we saw him with some ultra hot babe at a party we would all go ""wow dude some score.... " but if we knew that some $$$$$$ was involved we would all go " wow dude, having fun? .
And Tom.... all you need to do is get out and do some rock climbing away from TM ( that stuff is pretty unique, and dosen't translate to East Face Whitney rock ) to build up your skills some. Dig up a good partner and have some confidence in your ability to Climb and Pro and, if necessary, escape from a climb.
So Tom, your "only option" is "how do I score a permit"?
Best wishes, good luck 2 you.