ExcitableBoy wrote:BTW, I never attacked anyone, unless asking to validate their opinions with real world experience is an attack. Grow a pair. (That was an example of an attack).
What about the post that was removed?
I removed the following post: Chirp, chirp, chirp. As in the sound of crickets. Do you take that as an attack? Like my mother said, 'grow a thicker skin' if you really feel like that was a personal attack.
mistdaemon wrote:Again, you are not accurate in your statements. You were not asking to validate opinions with real world experience, you were saying that you would not listen if the person did not climb routes in Alaska.
The thread title is "Lightest Bag for the Alaska Range?" not lightest bag for sunny California. If you have never climbed anything in the AK, how can you possibly think you know what you are talking about?
mistdaemon wrote:So, please tell me how many times you have personally used a VB sleeping bag, in any way, shape or form? I have used one numerous times. This means that, unless I am wrong, I have infinitely more experience with VB sleeping bags than you. The same is true for your friends if they have not used one. So, please do validate your opinion based on your real world experience with a VB sleeping bag.
I have never used a VBL sleeping bag liner. Please tell me where my logic fails:
VBL sleeing bag liners require sleeping in only a light base layer. You can't wear all your clothes to bed.
VBL adds up to +10 degrees
My clothes add up to +30 degrees with zero addition of weight.
Explain what is wrong with my math? Also, name a current AK Range climber that uses a VBL, or are these hardmen too stupid to realize the advantages?