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Loosers?

Postby Guyzo » Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:04 am

Hey I guess the PoPo deleted my thread about Africa being a continent of losers.

To Dave K. I don't mean to Post BS stuff, and you can pull the plug on me if you wish, but I do have valid questions for anybody directly connected with Africa. :wink:

At one time Somalia was a playground for Europeans, seeking a warm place to hang out at during the winter. Cheap hotels, food, Pot, wild times and everything else was allowed. Than the Muslims took over and all that ended. Why?

I wish to go climb the hi-point in Somalia, any beta would be helpful.

Thanks.

GK :wink:
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Postby lowlands » Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:27 pm

I had a nice lengthy response to the PnP thread, but it's gone now.

Not sure about the muslim stuff in Somalia and the Horn of Africa, but as far as the rest goes;

Europe figuratively, and probably literally, raped the shit out of Africa. The turn of the 19th century Africa wasn't too shitty-a-place, but Europe had a bit of a jump on them. So, to keep the colonization going they decided to romp around Africa, taking and claiming what they wanted, with complete disregard to already set tribal boundaries. Because they were a bit more advanced they could just kick the shit out of a lot of people, although there were some exceptions like the Zulu warriors kicking the absolute shit out of a huge group of British who underestimated them, not sure what they name of the battle was, somewhere in South Africa. Towards the end of the 19th century European nations held the Berlin Conference, where they pretty much divided all of Africa according to this, without any African consent, basically like saying to each other "You take this, I take that". The Belgians ended up with what is today the Democratic Republic of the Congo, where King Leopold upheld ridiculous practices. If you didn't harvest enough of some shit, you're arm got cut off. Basically, we were a bit unfair to them.
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Postby Guyzo » Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:32 pm

good answer, That is about what I figured.

Thank you.
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Postby lowlands » Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:45 pm

Oh, by no means were only the Belgians at fault, you name 'em; British, Dutch, French, etc.

As far as the American slave trade is concerned, a lot of the people that were taken/purchased as slaves were Africans from rivaling tribes that were caught by another tribe as prisoners of war. So basically, one tribe fights another, captures some people and sells them to white people. It wasn't really like whites just came in and started picking people up out of their houses.
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