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Postby MoapaPk » Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:16 pm

MLCkills wrote:
MoapaPk wrote:"MLCkills" seems to be another toxo avatar.


Wow, how did you figure that out, genius?


By the combination of good information and anger.

MoapaPk wrote:I think that was the time squishy went, maybe 2007 or 2008?


It was in 2008. And yes, the stretch of snow was rather short.
Little known fact: I used to edit the dyslexia out of squishy's SP TRs.


Interesting, because his posts were generally not dyslexic; perhaps he had a good spell-checker. I am dysgraphic, and must read aloud everything I type, but still I make mistakes.
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Postby butitsadryheat » Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:37 pm

I never saw dyslexia, but boy did I see a lot of stupid and circular arguments that took up both sides of the argument he was always trying to make :lol:
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Postby MoapaPk » Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:38 pm

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Postby butitsadryheat » Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:38 pm

:lol:
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Postby KathyW » Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:57 pm

We just can't avoid referenced to the MLC can we.
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Postby ARosenthal » Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:02 pm

Gary Schenk wrote:
Mescalito345 wrote:This might be a good time to try out my Kahtoola Microspikes, which weigh only 12 ounces per pair.


Admittedly my experience with them is very limited, but I thought those things were way useless. If you're in conditions that require crampons, you need crampons. I felt better just kicking steps than trying to climb in those things.



I have a pair of these, I bought them last year before attempting T-bolt peak (left my cramps at home, bad idea). They work quite well on low angle stuff, but don't expect miracles. They would work just fine for middle pal glacier I suppose...
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Postby MoapaPk » Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:34 pm

As I look back at the early August 2006 photos, it seems that the snow approach to the 2 common entries was low-angle, and heavily sun-cupped.

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Even before 9AM, I was able to kick steps in the one touchy place, wearing just approach shoes. I've never used microspikes, and don't know how they affect one's ability to kick-step; but I saw Ron (our mutual friend!) use them on substantially steeper terrain this winter on South Sister (NV).
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Postby ARosenthal » Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:50 pm

MoapaPk wrote:...I've never used microspikes, and don't know how they affect one's ability to kick-step...




They don't.
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Postby MoapaPk » Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:08 am

I had no idea that Adam Sandaler climbed in the Sierra(s).

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Postby PellucidWombat » Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:32 am

regarding crampons on glaciers in the Sierra this time of year: look at the nighttime lows before you head out, and consider when you will be crossing the glacier heading up and down. Often the snow will be soft enough to walk on midday, but if you're on it early in the morning or after sunset when nighttime temps are near freezing, it can be very slick and too firm to kick steps in - even in mountaineering boots.

You could get by walking carefully on the suncups, and the section where you must be on the Middle Pal glacier is very short and not too steep.
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Postby dskoon » Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:00 am

butitsadryheat wrote:I never saw dyslexia, but boy did I see a lot of stupid and circular arguments that took up both sides of the argument he was always trying to make :lol:


:lol: :lol: That's classic. Sorry Squish, but that's damn funny.
So, how long you guys stickin' around this time? :wink:

Nice TR btw, and I thought it was good at the time.

Good to see you, if only one post, but. . . whatever.
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Given that the majority of us are using an ad-blocker, what do you think the click-through income is for SP? If the founders make any profit from this, more power to 'em. They don't charge us, and the people who complain the most about free use of our hard work usually contribute the least.

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Postby Mescalito345 » Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:10 am

Here's a question for those of you who have climbed Middle Palisade recently. Which of the following routes did you take? Thanks.

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