I've been up the official Morey benchmark twice, and also up that peak ~0.25 miles to the NE. I recall reading (from Pete Y) that the NE peak is actually a bit higher.

Anyone know how the other peak was determined to be higher? Did someone use a sighting level?

I'm writing up the routes for Morey.

This harkens back to about 1994, for me, when I wrote up the Nevada Peaks Club qualifying list. I seem to recall that somebody discerned the higher peak by looking at a map and maybe by climbing said peak/bump. The one fellow I think asserting this does not have any measuring device, but the BL/GM duo say they have a level, and that might be who discovered this.

Oh yes, be forewarned that I personally have not been to Morey Peak or the Hot Creek Range. Checking, Hart's book (1st edition) definitively states that Morey is the range HP, and no higher peak or point is indicated on his map.

As far as some of these climbers, there's some mental debilitation, and that inconsistencies appear in their work and statements. Contingent on what is truly the HP of a major Sierra peak, say, perhaps hundreds if not a thousand people have been climbing the wrong point. This in my mind invalidates so many claims, but as I have not personally measured one particular, though important, point, can't really say for sure.

It is common knowledge that the NV SC does not climb to the top of many local peaks, yet claim them as a hike locale/destination in their schedule. All for some simple class 3 or even class 2! "Your own standards," by me, but I would tend to agree with fraud/falsification as to many SC claims. The top is the top.

We can't have dead or injured people all over the peaks due to their moron games, so if they say they have done it, I usually will say nothing. No one guards the summits to say who has been there or not.

OK, I saw "Yamagata" in the register, but I now realize it was written by someone else, who had just finished the "Yamagata Nevada Peaks" list on the summit.

From the latest USGS 24k map, the last closed contour on each peak is 10240', and the closed contours are about the same size (area) on each summit. The benchmarked peak is 10246' on the same USGS map. I speculate there is not more than 5' difference between them, as both are sort of domical near the top. Each looks higher than the other when you are on top!

The NV SC is highly varied. Many announced hikes are very sedate, but some folks get away with official SC hikes that (e.g.) take the Big Falls route to Charleston, which is anything but sedate.

OK, I saw "Yamagata" in the register, but I now realize it was written by someone else, who had just finished the "Yamagata Nevada Peaks" list on the summit.

There would be only 1 or 2 people that I know claiming to finish that list. I have pretty much given up on the Nevada Peaks Club, it is dead. Though but for a NPC list accomplishment, you would have no reason to bag Morey and a host of other NV summits. At least by the usual SC peak bagging philosophies.

The National Office sets the rules, and I see some are disregarded by the NV SCs. At least by what's been handed down as SC law to the Angeles Chapter, you can't just go and lead/climb class 3 or higher without a lot of bureaucratic rigamarole. Although most of that is meaningless to those in charge of the GBG. By what I see, you wouldn't want them bagging peaks, there'd be too many hurt and killed. They are mainly lightweights, and trying to do some real summiting would kill most of them. They make sure it stays that way.

I had Morey on my to do list for many years, but it looks like I'll never do it, ever. Seeing the peak from Hwy. 6, it doesn't look like much. Great that someone is doing a page, love to see photos!

It's on other lists, e.g.
http://www.peakbagger.com/list.aspx?lid=50560

The Lichen Peaks to the SE of Morey look like the real prize, but it will take a special trip to get there. It's a pleasant wild area, but the you have to be in the right mood for a long high-altitude walk through open meadows.

No doubt.

But again, bagging Morey Peak will not advance anyone to a membership requirement, pin, patch, badge, medal, emblem status, or what. I do not explore solely for such reasons, and if someone had an urge to bag it and hike in the area, as Hart does speak highly of the Hot Creeks, I'd be off in a minute.

My curiosity has me looking at this again. Your finding will be of some note, to me!

Morey Peak Page

My two trips had bad photography conditions (thick smoke, rain), and I've always driven by the SE side at night, else I would have photos of that face. Maybe I can convince a friend to try the tough-looking canyons east of the Lichen Peaks.

I've had friends who hated this trip, but more who liked it. The NE access gets you to a long, easy hike with a minimum of rough travel. Though even that is best with a modest clearance AWD or 4WD vehicle. If I could find a way in from the SE, the vehicle requirements would be far less.

That's excellent work doing that page. I'd rather view more pix and even some register pages, so not the 10/10. Maybe one day, for me. Thanks!

1000Pks wrote:That's excellent work doing that page. I'd rather view more pix and even some register pages, so not the 10/10. Maybe one day, for me. Thanks!

Difference in philosophy; I'd rather show maps and give detailed instructions. Register photos don't do much to guide people.

But I just noticed that your first mountain page had very few pictures and none of trail registers, so I voted it 8/10 just as you did; just trying to be consistent with your philosophy.

Come to think of it, I don't see many pictures, especially of trail registers in your contributions, so I guess they all deserve 8/10 or less.

Register photos don't do much to guide people.

Each to their own.

I like reading registers, they provide interesting information and you can read comments and see who's signed in. If not to be posted on SP, a link to a site with them would be of high value to me. Then this would be another thread.

But I just noticed that your first 5 mountain pages had very few pictures and none of trail registers, so I voted them 8/10 just as you did; just trying to be consistent with your philosophy.

Yes, those were created long ago, and some guides then, and directions by the stated author philosophy, urges to leave some "adventure" for future summiteers. If anyone should desire more photos and more exact directions, my contact info is available. 8/10 is pretty generous by what I might be doing, but then some criticize giving too many details about getting to secret beautiful places. That is said to effectively degrade or destroy them. Sorry!

Come to think of it, I don't see many pictures, especially of trail registers in your contributions, so I guess they all deserve 8/10 or less.

I have my link to my own site, with as many photos of historic register entries as I deem of interest, or as I have the will to scan or post. As obvious, there are privacy issues by some. Not everybody wants their names or signatures on the Net, and it's a bit of an embarrassment why presumed mountaineering greats aren't signed in on popular peaks, anywhere.

However, I would think Morey Peak register entries mostly would be desert peak baggers who would maybe prefer their accomplishments be known and confirmed. My 2 cents, there.