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Postby The Chief » Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:10 am

Dougb wrote: Perhaps I'm the pot calling the kettle black, but then aren't we all at one time or another?


Ahhh, isn't that what is known as hypocrisy?

BTW... Bears are indigenous to them hills and their shit is part of that eco-system. You nor any other visiting human is not and neither is your/their shit, no matter how small it may be.

Your presence is neither better nor worse than any other visiting human in the Sierra. We are all just visiting and have the absolute right to do so.

Thus I say, enjoy your visits, clean up any unnatural debris that you may find and take only memories of your time in the Sierra.
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Postby The Chief » Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:38 am

Dougb wrote:Well Chief, you're a lucky fellow living so close to such a pretty place. How do you get to your climbs, magic carpet?


Drive to the established T/H just as you and everyone else does, then I walk. I pack out ALL MY SHIT btw.

From the NOAA Forecast Ctr in Monterey, yesterday:

DECEMBER 1ST UPDATE FROM THE SAN FRANSISCO FORECAST OFFICE IN MONTEREY TUESDAY AM:

EXTENDED FORECAST:



ITS GETTING HARD NOT TO START DRAWING ANALOGIES TO THE OCTOBER EVENT WITH ANOTHER RE-CURVING FORMER TYPHOON TAKING AIM AT THE CENTRAL COAST AND NORTHERN CALIFORNIA. TO GIVE AN IDEA ON RAINFALL POTENTIAL...AND THESE ARE VERY COARSE AND PRELIMINARY AT
THIS TIME, THE ECMWF GIVES 4 DAY STORM TOTALS OF 5-7 INCHES IN THE HILLS WITH WIDESPREAD 3 TO 5 INCH RAIN TOTALS FOR THE VALLEYS.

OVER IN THE SIERRA, THE LATEST RUNS GIVE STORM TOTAL QPF OF NEARLY 19 INCHES OF LIQUID PRECIP. STILL WAY TOO EARLY TO GET SPECIFIC BUT OBVIOUSLY THE SANTA CRUZ MOUNTAINS AND BIG SUR COAST COULD REALLY GET NAILED AGAIN. AS WITH THE OCTOBER STORM, WE WILL EVENTUALLY HAVE TO LOOK INTO WIND AND BIG SWELL POTENTIAL AS WELL.

ITS NOT TOO EARLY TO START YOUR STORM PREPARATIONS.
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Postby The Chief » Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:46 am

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Postby The Chief » Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:57 pm

Dingus Milktoast wrote:I burn my terlit paper ...

Ah ha...

It is your flaming shit paper that is the culprit of all them burned down pine trees.
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Postby The Chief » Thu Dec 03, 2009 2:41 pm

As long as WE ALL do what we can to leave only what we found before we entered, it is all good.

And please, everyone, stay on the trails. Them little plant critters and eco-systems that have been on this planet far longer than any of us, deserve every right to remain there....alive and thriving!
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Postby Bubba Suess » Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:13 pm

I was going to say this was a pissing contest, but I guess it is a crapping contest.
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Postby Guyzo » Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:43 pm

Almost started a forest fire one time with the burning TP..... true enuf :shock: :shock: :o :o :oops: :oops:

Best be careful with that stuff, it is pretty toxic. :wink:

But back to the OP.......

One will find zero folks if you follow these rules.... start at a low trailhead, with tons of elev gain to get to the MTS. Example, go up Baxter Pass.

Better yet.... go up passes that do not have roads leading to the start.

Go in from almost anyplace from the west.... start low down and walk 10-15 miles that will do the trick. :wink:

Go to any of the rock climbing places I visit. ....... Completely deserted, year after year. :wink:

So PM me if you wish, I'll draw you a map.

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Postby Guyzo » Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:47 pm

Bob Burd wrote:
ksolem wrote:I am bummed to hear the Forest Circus opened Blue Canyon to packers. Bad idea there.


I was in Blue Canyon on a weekend this past July. The trail is easier to follow than in the past, but it is still some effort to stay on it and not lose it. Looked more like the packers had opened up the trail themselves than any concerted trail-building effort by the FS.

And I think the idea of the crowded Sierra is far overblown. I didn't see a soul in Blue Canyon (no surprise), but didn't see anyone in Crown Valley or on the Rancheria Trail all the way from the start and back. There was only one other car in the lot when I got back - a weekend in July. And I could tell a similar story from hundreds of visits in the past ten years. The High Sierra crowds are in two dozen or so locations we could all name, like Whitney, Onion Valley, Rock Creek, Mammoth Lakes, Tuolumne Meadows, the Valley, Cedar Grove, etc, but there are far more places that one can go and find almost no one. If you leave the trail for more than a few hundred yards, your chances of seeing anyone diminish to close to zero even near the crowded trails.

Judging from the summit registers, I'd say there were more visitors in the remote places thirty years ago than there are today. Sport climbing, video games, and the Internet seem to have supplanted Sierra Club outings and the like as recreation for many.

For you, Kris - Gorge of Despair from Blue Canyon:

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Nice shot Bob, you can see "the coolest place on the planet" in that shot. Have you ever climbed Kettle Dome??

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Postby Bob Burd » Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:42 pm

Guyzo wrote:Have you ever climbed Kettle Dome??

gk


No, but it has caught my attention:

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It's on the todo list. :)
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Re: Most remote areas in Sierra??

Postby Sierra Ledge Rat » Fri Dec 04, 2009 12:26 am

hellroaring wrote:for all you Sierra veterans/locals...Just wondering what you would consider the most remote area(s) in the Sierra?


Kaweahs?
Great Western Divide?
Ionian Basin/Enchanted Gorge?
Goddard creek watershed?

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