Welcome to SP!  -
Areas & RangesMountains & RocksRoutesImagesArticlesTrip ReportsGearOtherPeoplePlans & PartnersWhat's NewForum

These guys have been really busy stealing photos from SP

Post general questions and discuss issues related to climbing.
 

These guys have been really busy stealing photos from SP

Postby Corax » Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:18 pm

It's easy to make an expedition page nice, when decorated with photos stolen from other people.
Cheap bastards not even mailing asking fro permission or giving any credits.

From fieldtouring's Gasherbrum page. Many more than these:
<A href=//www.expedition.sk/viewer.php?file=g2-1.jpg&popis=Ga%9Aerbrum%20zo%20z%E1kladn%E9ho%20t%E1bora><b>1</B>
<a href=//www.expedition.sk/viewer.php?file=g2-3.jpg&popis=Ga%9Aerbrum%20I%20a%20II%20z%20C1><b>2</B>
<a href=//www.expedition.sk/viewer.php?file=g2-2.jpg&popis=Poh%BEad%20dole%20ne%EFaleko%20vrcholov%E9ho%20hrebe%F2<b>3</b><a>

From Huberschwiller.
<a href=//www.expedition.sk><b>Kili photo on first page displaying all the expeditions.</B></a>

From Losdestroy.
<a href=http://www.huascaran.expedition.sk><b>Top right photo on thsi page</B></A>

From me.
<a Href=//www.expedition.sk/viewer.php?file=shisha-1.jpg&popis=%8Ai%9Aa%20Pangma%20od%20z%E1padu><b>Xixa 1</B></A>

<a href=//www.expedition.sk/viewer.php?file=shisha-2.jpg&popis=Osamoten%FD%20%9Aerpa%20pred%20%8Ai%9Aa%20Pangmou><B>Xixa 2</B></A>

There are probably more.

On some of the pages on this expedition site you'll find a SP menber. hmmm.
It's dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. Voltaire
User Avatar
Corax

 
Posts: 1241
Joined: Sun Jun 13, 2004 12:13 pm
Thanked: 16 times in 8 posts

Re: These guys have been really busy stealing photos from SP

Postby Andinistaloco » Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:34 pm

Well hell, that's kind of annoying! Do you know if permission was given? I'd like to know a little more about it, since I put photos up here for other members to enjoy, not for big touring companies to hijack (not that they'd necessarily hijack MINE : ).

Wonder if there's any recorse here?
User Avatar
Andinistaloco

 
Posts: 6333
Joined: Tue Oct 08, 2002 2:32 am
Location: Flagstaff, Arizona, The Great Southwest, United States
Thanked: 68 times in 42 posts

Re: These guys have been really busy stealing photos from SP

Postby Corax » Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:37 pm

<i>Do you know if permission was given?</i>

You mean from the SP-staff?
Can they give permission?
I'm not knowledgeable at all when it comes to copyright issues.

One thing I know though and that is that I have not given these guys any permission to use my photos.
It's dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. Voltaire
User Avatar
Corax

 
Posts: 1241
Joined: Sun Jun 13, 2004 12:13 pm
Thanked: 16 times in 8 posts

Re: These guys have been really busy stealing photos from SP

Postby Mike in Czech » Sun Apr 03, 2005 10:20 pm

Looks like a Slovak page.

Brings home the importance of copyrighting your pictures with a note on the picture itself.

- Mike in Czech
User Avatar
Mike in Czech

 
Posts: 106
Joined: Sun Nov 09, 2003 12:32 pm
Location: Prague, U.S State, Czech Republic
Thanked: 0 time in 0 post

Re: These guys have been really busy stealing photos from SP

Postby The Lower Marmot » Sun Apr 03, 2005 10:34 pm

They're not public domain even if you don't include a mark on the picture itself, if I am not mistaken (which I may be, but I don't think I am). I don't think that the SP staff could give permission, and I know that if they did they would make sure you consented first, which would be the same as you giving permission. A nasty email would be perfectly in line in this situation...
User Avatar
The Lower Marmot

 
Posts: 387
Joined: Sat Sep 20, 2003 11:07 pm
Location: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, United States
Thanked: 0 time in 0 post

Re: These guys have been really busy stealing photos from SP

Postby Misha » Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:01 pm

<i>They're not public domain even if you don't include a mark on the picture itself, if I am not mistaken (which I may be, but I don't think I am). </i>

You are not mistaken. Photos do not need to include a copyright mark on them to be considered private property and protected by copyright laws.

Looks like these guys ARE stealing photos and should be warned immediately. If they do not respond, you may want to notify their ISP and domain registrant. I've seen entire sites being taken offline for copyright violations.
User Avatar
Misha

 
Posts: 3914
Joined: Wed Oct 02, 2002 9:13 pm
Location: Woodside, California, United States
Thanked: 0 time in 0 post

Re: These guys have been really busy stealing photos from SP

Postby AndreasBlomquist.se » Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:02 pm

Well, that sure as hell sucks.

Why don't we all pitch in and write them an e-mail pointing out the fact that they have copyrighted pictures belonging to Corax and others on their website which they use without permission. Then they might think about it before using more pics and maybe even remove these.. Who knows?
User Avatar
AndreasBlomquist.se

 
Posts: 142
Joined: Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:23 am
Location: Karlstad, Värmland, Sweden
Thanked: 0 time in 0 post

Re: These guys have been really busy stealing photos from SP

Postby Aaron Johnson » Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:22 pm

Agreed. Those that have been violated should contact the offenders with email. Speaking for the staff, the SP staff DOES NOT give ANYONE permission at any time for any reason to use material posted on SP anywhere else for any purpose. The stuff you post is YOURS. Your work and writings on SP are YOURS. Protect it. It is your right!
User Avatar
Aaron Johnson

 
Posts: 3647
Joined: Wed Jun 19, 2002 8:49 pm
Location: Denver, Colorado, United States
Thanked: 52 times in 18 posts

Re: These guys have been really busy stealing photos from SP

Postby IdahoKid » Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:25 pm

Ok, I was going to email them because this kind of thing is unacceptable, but I cant read any of the text, because of course the language barrier. If some one could post the correct email adress I would be more than happy to give them a piece of my mind.
Sean
User Avatar
IdahoKid

 
Posts: 603
Joined: Sun Oct 03, 2004 2:49 pm
Location: San Francisco, California, United States
Thanked: 0 time in 0 post

Re: These guys have been really busy stealing photos from SP

Postby mconnell » Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:37 pm

I didn't look to verify that SP photos are on their website, but you can send email concerning fieldtouring to dave@fieldtouring.com .
mconnell

 
Posts: 7494
Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2001 4:28 pm
Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado, United States
Thanked: 336 times in 200 posts

Re: These guys have been really busy stealing photos from SP

Postby Rice Climber » Mon Apr 04, 2005 3:44 am

There are SP members who have hijacked photos from other sites also...and these photos are voted upon and getting tons of stars. Not cool. Not right.
User Avatar
Rice Climber

 
Posts: 507
Joined: Thu Sep 30, 2004 6:30 pm
Location: Huntington Beach, California, United States
Thanked: 0 time in 0 post

Re: These guys have been really busy stealing photos from SP

Postby JXM » Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:16 am

sp elf wrote: Which member? I poked around, but nothing popped out...

user_id=16863
JXM

 
Posts: 34
Joined: Thu Jan 09, 2003 6:31 am
Thanked: 0 time in 0 post

Re: These guys have been really busy stealing photos from SP

Postby Brian Jenkins » Mon Apr 04, 2005 5:21 am

What do you guys think about <A HREF="http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/threadz/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/284002/an/0/page/11#284002">this situation</A>? Some guy on cascadeclimbers.com named Will Strickland, posted two shots from SP (one appears to have a bad link, the other is one of mine) to show for some beta, gave credit to summitpost but did not get permission from me or even ask me about it? Is this copyright infringement or since they credit summitpost, is it ok? Personally, I think it's kind of crap that I did not get asked about it. I have had one other photo of mine get used by the Mountaineers in Seattle but they asked me for permission and said they would not make any money off it.
User Avatar
Brian Jenkins

 
Posts: 1385
Joined: Tue Jul 17, 2001 1:31 pm
Location: Upper Left Corner, United States
Thanked: 4 times in 4 posts

Re: These guys have been really busy stealing photos from SP

Postby fieldtouring » Mon Apr 04, 2005 5:43 am

They have taken perhaps the premium 6 images from our Gasherbrum II and Broad Peak image library - quite rude. The effort and cost to get those images is significant to say the least
http://www.expedition.sk/index.php?page=broadpeak
http://www.expedition.sk/index.php?page=gasherbrum2


We have a past client whom is a lawyer in the EU drafting a letter and will demand they are removed within 7 days. Our IT guy is also going to use a clause in the general ISP set-up regs and request the site be pulled within 21 days if the copyright infringement isnt remedied.

If you wish to add your voice and register your disgust to this, email: info@expedition.sk

Janne Corax - thanks for bringing this to our attention
User Avatar
fieldtouring

 
Posts: 37
Joined: Wed Nov 05, 2003 12:56 am
Location: Perth, Australia
Thanked: 0 time in 0 post

Next

Return to General

 


  • Related topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests

© 2006-2013 SummitPost.org. All Rights Reserved.