96avs01 wrote:

Luciano136 wrote:In CO's favor though, you can be in big mountains from Denver in about 30min in the middle of the winter. Won't happen here...

Sure, with that Continental snowpack that likes to avy. Prefer to drive a little further and enjoy the Coastal pack myself. YMMV

There's ALWAYS someplace to ski in CO - you just have to be intelligent about it, read the forecasts, and dig a pit. There are avys in CA as well - try that traverse from Alpine Meadows to Squaw sometime, or hang out around Kirkwood.

Besides, the CO champagne powder will beat out Sierra Cement or Cascade Concrete any day.

MarthaP wrote:

96avs01 wrote:

Luciano136 wrote:In CO's favor though, you can be in big mountains from Denver in about 30min in the middle of the winter. Won't happen here...

Sure, with that Continental snowpack that likes to avy. Prefer to drive a little further and enjoy the Coastal pack myself. YMMV

There's ALWAYS someplace to ski in CO - you just have to be intelligent about it, read the forecasts, and dig a pit. There are avys in CA as well - try that traverse from Alpine Meadows to Squaw sometime, or hang out around Kirkwood.

Besides, the CO champagne powder will beat out Sierra Cement or Cascade Concrete any day.

So, I guess the avy comment is outweighed by the excellent powder. Back to even

MarthaP wrote:I live in Evergreen and I'm a bleeding heart liberal animal lover wordsmith backcountry enthusiast volunteer for the good cause old conservationist hippie. Coloradoans aren't ALL bible-thumping beer swilling mullet loving road hawg C&R crooner nose-pickers.

At lot of them, but not all.

Absolutely. Point well taken. It's always problematic to generalize. Pretty easy to get in trouble that way.

MarthaP wrote:

96avs01 wrote:

Luciano136 wrote:In CO's favor though, you can be in big mountains from Denver in about 30min in the middle of the winter. Won't happen here...

Sure, with that Continental snowpack that likes to avy. Prefer to drive a little further and enjoy the Coastal pack myself. YMMV

There's ALWAYS someplace to ski in CO - you just have to be intelligent about it, read the forecasts, and dig a pit. There are avys in CA as well - try that traverse from Alpine Meadows to Squaw sometime, or hang out around Kirkwood.

Besides, the CO champagne powder will beat out Sierra Cement or Cascade Concrete any day.

Never said there weren't CA avys, and I have been to both those areas. I would rather have a few less pow days in trade for more days in the backcountry on a more stable snowpack. Hope more in CA are enticed by that champagne pow and decide to head your way.

Luciano136 wrote:So, I guess the avy comment is outweighed by the excellent powder. Back to even

Depends on the person, different strokes for different folks

fossana wrote:

JHH60 wrote:

rhyang wrote:Yes -- please move along to Colorado and Washington .. California is full. Thanks

It's full of a lot of things - don't get me started on Prop 13, initiative insanity, and perpetually broken budget.

True, but CO seems to be catching up. My 36 acre lot in Lyons (stupid impulsive purchase) just got reassessed by the county and I'm looking at paying the same amount in taxes as if I had the land plus a $500K house on it. If, however, I fence it in and let livestock graze on it (instead of elk) then it drops to <$100 a year.

Time to raise llamas?

chicagotransplant wrote:

fatdad wrote:

chicagotransplant wrote:The best part about Colorado? All the people from California are in California instead of here

If you rock climb, it's pretty hard to beat Boulder for convenience to the crags. That's about as good as it gets. But the people? I don't know. I think that's a serious detraction. I was considering moving to Colorado way back but met a lot of people with attitudes straight out of Alabama.

I live outside of Vail, we're all ski bums here

Why waste your money on that boutique sport when you have perfectly good ice to climb!

JHH60 wrote:

chicagotransplant wrote:

fatdad wrote:

chicagotransplant wrote:The best part about Colorado? All the people from California are in California instead of here

If you rock climb, it's pretty hard to beat Boulder for convenience to the crags. That's about as good as it gets. But the people? I don't know. I think that's a serious detraction. I was considering moving to Colorado way back but met a lot of people with attitudes straight out of Alabama.

I live outside of Vail, we're all ski bums here

Why waste your money on that boutique sport when you have perfectly good ice to climb!

Ha! Ice tools cost more than my skis! - of course that season pass does get a little pricey, so you may be on to something

JHH60 wrote:

fossana wrote:

JHH60 wrote:

rhyang wrote:Yes -- please move along to Colorado and Washington .. California is full. Thanks

It's full of a lot of things - don't get me started on Prop 13, initiative insanity, and perpetually broken budget.

True, but CO seems to be catching up. My 36 acre lot in Lyons (stupid impulsive purchase) just got reassessed by the county and I'm looking at paying the same amount in taxes as if I had the land plus a $500K house on it. If, however, I fence it in and let livestock graze on it (instead of elk) then it drops to <$100 a year.

Time to raise llamas?

I would recommend hiring a qualified Llama Wrangler -- and fortunately I happen to know one such person

TheOrglingLlama wrote:

JHH60 wrote:

fossana wrote:

JHH60 wrote:

rhyang wrote:Yes -- please move along to Colorado and Washington .. California is full. Thanks

It's full of a lot of things - don't get me started on Prop 13, initiative insanity, and perpetually broken budget.

True, but CO seems to be catching up. My 36 acre lot in Lyons (stupid impulsive purchase) just got reassessed by the county and I'm looking at paying the same amount in taxes as if I had the land plus a $500K house on it. If, however, I fence it in and let livestock graze on it (instead of elk) then it drops to <$100 a year.

Time to raise llamas?

I would recommend hiring a qualified Llama Wrangler -- and fortunately I happen to know one such person

Hey on the Forest Service trailhead registers in Colorado they have a check box under mode of travel for "Llama" - see what a Llama Friendly state Colorado is

I just searched ("wag bag" and <state==(CA or CO)>). CA got 3 times as many hits as CO.

squishy wrote:

MoapaPk wrote:I just searched ("wag bag" and <state==(CA or CO)>). CA got 3 times as many hits as CO.

So what your saying is California is covered in less @#$%...

Nah, it's just covered with more people who want to take a crap in a fairly restricted area.

MoapaPk wrote:I just searched ("wag bag" and <state==(CA or CO)>). CA got 3 times as many hits as CO.

When talking wag-bags, shouldn't that be "CA got 3 times as many shits as CO."?

I've lined in the SF Bay area and Los Angeles, visited CO a number of times on business and pleasure. All I can say is . . . .

[size=18]'Ya can't surf in Colorado ! ![/size]

I've hiked the Canadian Rockies, the Colorado Rockies, the Cascades, the Bavarian Alps, biked and hiked across the south island of New Zealand, hiked in Queensland Australia, toured nearly every national park here, and spend just about every free minute I have in the Sierra Nevada. I tell everyone who'll listen that the most beautiful place I've ever been to is Lake Ediza at the base of Mount Ritter.

I just spent a week in Breckenridge, Boulder, Estes Park, Buenta Vista, Leadville, and Idaho Springs. They're nice, but they've got nothing on California.

Those that choose to live along 395 are truely blessed......