Do you look at the topo?

by **MarthaP** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 4:31 pm

Good point, squish. You can sure see where my thinking focuses.

I'm still too shicken-chit to go up something vertical, as shortimer does, without knowing what I'm getting on. Takes a lot longer for these bones to heal these days.... :cry:

by **Snowslogger** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:08 pm

[quote="MarthaPInteresting that most guys don't like reading maps.

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I'll use a map but sure as hell won't ask for directions :lol:

by **rhyang** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:22 pm

ShortTimer wrote:Yep, two entirely different deals Rob. I used to go fishing wth Herb Laeger all over the Sierra. We have fished the most inhospitable back country rivers and streams that you could imagine. Hell, we put up a new 4 pitch 5.7 on the North Fork of the Kings with packs and fishing poles in hand, with no rope. And in all that time we never looked at or carried a topo map except maybe to try to find out obscure rivers to explore. But once we found them we never used the topo to get to them. We have of course walked many miles more than we should have a times, and we have been cliffed at times, but oh the adventures that we had! And the fish that we caught!

I'd bet there have been some pretty good fish stories as a result, too

by **MarthaP** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:46 pm

Dingus Milktoast wrote:Winter back country self-cointained ski touring>? I want the map Martha! (but even there I have many times gone without - if you don't have a destination you don't truly need a map so long as you remember where you been)

DMT

Interesting...I just found my old High Country Passes/Secor and was looking at Kearsarge lakes/pass/peaks....

No topo, though.

by **ShortTimer** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:58 pm

rhyang wrote:
ShortTimer wrote:Yep, two entirely different deals Rob. I used to go fishing wth Herb Laeger all over the Sierra. We have fished the most inhospitable back country rivers and streams that you could imagine. Hell, we put up a new 4 pitch 5.7 on the North Fork of the Kings with packs and fishing poles in hand, with no rope. And in all that time we never looked at or carried a topo map except maybe to try to find out obscure rivers to explore. But once we found them we never used the topo to get to them. We have of course walked many miles more than we should have a times, and we have been cliffed at times, but oh the adventures that we had! And the fish that we caught!

I'd bet there have been some pretty good fish stories as a result, too

Let's just say that I have done scarier stuff with a fishing pole in my hand then I have when roped. Herb's wife Eve, who was a pretty solid 5.11 climber, came on one fishing trip with us. When she finally escaped to civilization she told everyone that we were doing 5.12 fishing trips, we were nuts, and she would never go again. I have been on a cliff on the side of a river with a 20' blank slab in front of me and a corner with a chimney on the other side, let go and run down and across the face to slam into the corner, just to avoid some additional up climbing. Now that is adventure! And all just to torture fish and let them go again.

by **rhyang** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:27 pm

ShortTimer wrote:And all just to torture fish and let them go again.

Catch and release ? I've never fished in the Sierra .. some friends do though. They tell me tales of wild onion and sauteed trout .. though I guess cooking gear might get in the way of free soloing

by **ShortTimer** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:47 pm

rhyang wrote:
ShortTimer wrote:And all just to torture fish and let them go again.

Catch and release ? I've never fished in the Sierra .. some friends do though. They tell me tales of wild onion and sauteed trout .. though I guess cooking gear might get in the way of free soloing

You can only eat a couple each. When two people catch 200 to 300 trout in a day what are you going to do with the rest?

by **Day Hiker** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:54 pm

If it's catch and release, that "200 to 300" is probably just the same 4 or 5 trout being caught over and over and over again.

by **rhyang** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:38 pm

by **ShortTimer** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:42 pm

Dingus Milktoast wrote:So few? No wonder you turned to climbing!

DMT

Well, it is the southern Sierra afterall.

by **The Chief** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:29 am

The two "Topo's" in question are good to have if you want to get on some routes out in the middle nowhere. This one in particular takes several hours to get to as it 10 miles in and is the ONLY Route on the wall....

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