bird wrote:If you get something for both, they'll suck at both. If you are going to climb grade 3-4 ice, you may not need the best tools, but bashing your knuckles sucks just as much on a grade 2 as it does on a grade 5.
Anyway, get one good pair of ice tools and a basic glacier axe and you'll be covered.
robpatterson5 wrote:a nice setup for most alpine, walking and easier ice.
96avs01 wrote:Has anyone used the Petzl Sum'Tec?
Wondering if this may be the closest tool option for the OP's needs?
Autoxfil wrote:I enjoy ice climbing, and will be going quite a few times a year. But, I'm not very hardcore and mostly do local, easy stuff. Also, I'm doing Mt. Washington in January and Rainier (Emmons Glacier) in June, and I'm sure I'll be doing lots more NE winter stuff in the Adirondacks and Catskills.
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