Rather than noobiness, I thought this was advanced trundling

McCannster wrote:The finished result, a bit less noob-ish, but still kinda sketchy:

I counted four pieces of webbing and one cord connected to six anchor points. Don't most people stop at three points?

graham wrote:Rather than noobiness, I thought this was advanced trundling

Like the mountains themselves, Advanced Trundling creates its own weather:

Those pants are DA BOMB !!

It's not easy being a noob.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77Jd9DJlH7Q

2_climbaxes wrote:
How many problems do you see here?

Five. What do I win?

Seriously though... ugh. THis is why I don't guide much any more.

One too many!

What do I win????

This is one good reason why I would never join a SAR Team....

Borut....

Does the graffiti under you foot say "PARTY" ?

Just wondering.

I just doesn't look like you need a rope at all on that route

Summit of Mt. Williamson. Forgot my pants.

2_climbaxes wrote:That's a great start, but you are still missing some. But if you aren't a local there is 1 you might miss.

I don't understand what they need a shovel for - they don't look like they're carrying overnight packs. If they were to travel in an avy terrain, they need more than one shovel per group, I would think...

also, I don't see a single snow picket for the entire group or a fluke. If they were protecting themselves with ropes, I'd think they would need some anchoring material...

Late starts seem to be a common theme in the Cascades. Both on Adams and Shasta I encountered people going up at like noon?!?

MikeTX wrote:

Luciano136 wrote:Late starts seem to be a common theme in the Cascades. Both on Adams and Shasta I encountered people going up at like noon?!?

Well, that brings up a good point. Adams and Shasta are both often done as an overnighter. So a person leaving for the Lunch Counter or Helen Lake at noon may not be that crazy. If a person leaves the Timberline at noon, I would assume he's camping near the ski lift. If he's high on the mountain at that time (like in the mazama photo), I would say he's crazy.

Adams seemed to be fine but there is definitely rock fall below the Red Banks on Shasta. I left 50/50 (about 1000 feet under Helen Lake) at 3:30am. Not only do you run the risk of rock fall later in the day, you also get BAKED by the sun (unless you do it in winter).

Early starts on snow slopes are more fun in general since the snow is firm and it's not that hot.

MikeTX wrote:

Luciano136 wrote:Late starts seem to be a common theme in the Cascades. Both on Adams and Shasta I encountered people going up at like noon?!?

Well, that brings up a good point. Adams and Shasta are both often done as an overnighter. So a person leaving for the Lunch Counter or Helen Lake at noon may not be that crazy. If a person leaves the Timberline at noon, I would assume he's camping near the ski lift. If he's high on the mountain at that time (like in the mazama photo), I would say he's crazy.

Yup. For a south side route on Shasta in the springtime I usually leave my house around 5 or 6 am and get up to the town of Mt. Shasta late morning sometime, then start snowshoeing up to where ever I am camping around noonish. I save the alpine start for the next morning

I was going through some old photos and found this one of my first trad lead.