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Help for overweight

Postby Alamkuh » Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:30 pm

I intend to add weight for the winter I climb , In ascending often feel hungry and I have a little weight ...
Weekly practice is to me :
Saturday: body building exercises
Sunday: running 5 miles
Monday: body building
Tuesday: Boulder
Wednesday: Ascending Jummar
Thursday and Friday: 4000 meter peak climbing

How do I increase the weight because no matter how much food will not wish my weight? :(

Height: 171 m
Weight: 53 kg
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Postby nartreb » Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:44 pm

What advantage do you see in gaining weight? You could just carry an extra kilo of food with you. Eat when you're hungry. (And, with an exercise regime like that, eat a little even when you're not hungry.) Carrying fat in your body is not the best way of staying fed, and carrying extra muscle is even less efficient.

You're thin but healthy. You could increase muscle mass by reducing your running distance and increasing the amount of weight you lift, but it probably won't help your climbing.
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Postby SpiderSavage » Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:54 pm

Best way to gain weight quick is move to the USA and get old. We do this really well over here. :D

We eat lots of beef, with fat, pork with fat and more fat, sugar (in everything), anything with alcohol in it, and wheat--lots of wheat. :D

Seriously now, if you are climbing in cold and snow you need fat, either on you or in you. Check out the Eskimo (Aleut) diet: mostly pure fat. I've noticed that people in warm latitudes can get by on lots of fruit (light food) and the colder the climate the more fat the human body needs until you get up to the Arctic where you can live on almost 100% fat.
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Postby Luciano136 » Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:55 pm

Storing fat is only good when you're climbing at high altitudes (6000m+).

Just eat on a very regular basis when you're in the mountains.
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Postby Alamkuh » Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:09 pm

nartreb wrote:What advantage do you see in gaining weight? You could just carry an extra kilo of food with you. Eat when you're hungry. (And, with an exercise regime like that, eat a little even when you're not hungry.) Carrying fat in your body is not the best way of staying fed, and carrying extra muscle is even less efficient.

You're thin but healthy. You could increase muscle mass by reducing your running distance and increasing the amount of weight you lift, but it probably won't help your climbing.



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Postby Alamkuh » Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:18 pm

SpiderSavage wrote:Best way to gain weight quick is move to the USA and get old. We do this really well over here. :D

We eat lots of beef, with fat, pork with fat and more fat, sugar (in everything), anything with alcohol in it, and wheat--lots of wheat. :D

Seriously now, if you are climbing in cold and snow you need fat, either on you or in you. Check out the Eskimo (Aleut) diet: mostly pure fat. I've noticed that people in warm latitudes can get by on lots of fruit (light food) and the colder the climate the more fat the human body needs until you get up to the Arctic where you can live on almost 100% fat.



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Postby peladoboton » Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:55 pm

i would say enjoy your lightweight status and focus on performance. i like what was said about eating when hungry.

the best way to stay warm when you are high/cold is to stay dry, stay fed, and stay hydrated.

a little bit of cold is worth it, says i, if you are able to stay fast and light and get up that mountain.

(i guess i am just missing the days when i was a lot lighter and able to hurry up the mountains a lot faster, even though i was a bit colder than i get these days :lol: )
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Postby Noondueler » Sat Sep 26, 2009 5:07 pm

Eating high calorie foods before bedtime. you won't burn it off. I,ve seen skinny people bulk up that way.
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Postby tanneyman13 » Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:12 pm

if you really want to bulk up i recommend buying a couple boxes of Colossal 100 bars and take meal replacements between the meals you would normally eat. This will easily add an additional 1000 plus calories to your diet. i know some will strongly disagree with this but i did it and i put on 12 pounds of muscle in a few months. sounds like you had the same problem i did, just didnt eat enough. if your active i dont see a problem doing this, worked great for me and i did not notice any noticeable decrease in my overall fitness other than the fact that i wasn't as quick as i used to be on the basketball court but i was a hell of a lot stronger.
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Some people can't gain weight

Postby RayMondo » Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:14 pm

Gain fat:
Maybe you can't gain weight in fat, same as me until I reached 50, but gained only 2kg, even if I eat too much I do not gain more. My fat % has been 2%. And I never had problems feeling cold during the winter. Though I do run out energy if I do not eat the right meals before bike or mountain. You do get a lot of energy from what is stored in the liver.

There are two types of body fat: White fat (lipid), and Brown fat. Probably you have more brown fat like me. Brown fat has the purpose of generating body heat by burning calories / energy that your body does not use immediately, or for keeping you warm. The brown fat is also more related to muscle than fat itself. It has kept me very warm (quite nice in bed for the woman too - hot guy)! :D http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_adipose_tissue

A person can only put on weight if the fat is absorbed. And if the fat % that you have naturally is low, then the increase will be slow. No-one can increase the number of fat cells they have, only they may increase in size if fat is absorbed in the white fat.

If you get more fat, then you might feel the cold more. That's because most fat is not generating heat, so it cools down. If it's cool, then your skin feels cold. More fat gives a larger body surface, so you can also lose heat that way. Though a good fat layer will protect your body core temperature and help prevent hypothermia - loss of body core temperature (hypo = less), (hyper = more).

Gain muscle:
I also found it almost impossible to gain muscle mass. Even with heavy weight training and eating really big meals and snacks - nothing happened. It is probably because the same as me, your muscle density is high (not much fat between the muscle fibres - probably you sink in water? as I do). So the muscle you have does all you need.

And I don't need more muscle for what I do. The same as you I have light body, so I do not need bigger muscles. I bike big hills no problem. I do not climb recently, but always have plenty of power for that. But if you have more weight it is more to pull up. More work for the heart.

Your weight 53kg and height 171cm is quite well matched. Mine is 63kg and 178cm but have naturally large shoulders so more weight there. For my weight, I can weight press up 70 - 80kg. You look in great shape, so don't worry. You already are very strong because most of what you have is muscle and dense strong bones. So you are already as strong as a real big guy, and your light build enables you to climb better. If you like to increase your ability for defence, practice a martial art for speed. But if you want more muscle bulk then eat very much more, maybe it will work for you.

Sometimes as the intestines change (become more permeable - especially with more age), then more fat enters the blood and is absorbed by the body. Maybe you will become fat age 50!
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