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Postby Jeff M » Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:26 am

Yeah, if it were a martini quote, then yes, Conrad. But this quote is full Ernest...and I'm pretty sure it's:

“There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games.”

Damn, I'm bringing my hooks and aiders next time I go bouldering....hahahahahahaha!
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Postby kheegster » Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:51 am

Gary Schenk wrote:
The Chief wrote:If you don't or can't take whippers like I do trying to get the send...

YOU ARE A PUSSY!


I'm a pussy, I don't like to fall. The leader must not fall. Unless of course your sport climbing, then you can take those 3 foot whippers.


I think the whole 'leader must not fall' thing made sense in the days when one would tie in to a hemp rope with a bowline around the waist and bash in pitons every 30 ft. On the other hand....

Leader must not hangdog is something I can believe as far as trad pro is concerned...
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Postby sixfingers » Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:52 pm

Are you, we (men) actually still debating something that started the first time some dude missed the Wooly mammoth with his spear?
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Postby drjohnso1182 » Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:32 pm

Lolli wrote:But then I don't quite understand that male thing you all got going....

It's genetic.
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Re: Is it wrong to pick on those weaker than yourself?

Postby Guyzo » Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:37 pm

ShortTimer wrote:I mean these are your friends! And if they can't do the problem, is it wrong if I/we harass them hard for their obvious weakness? I just don't see it. In the game of climbing, especially bouldering, step up or get stepped on.



Jan ..... pick your words more carefully, I never see you "pick on anybody"... you deal a lot of BS, sandbagging in good fun, but I have watched you show n00bs how to get a pinkey lock, use an edge better, good technique tips. And when they don't remember you go. "Hay dummy remember little finger down" ...... not exactly picking on weaker folks.

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Re: Is it wrong to pick on those weaker than yourself?

Postby CClaude » Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:15 pm

Guyzo wrote:
ShortTimer wrote:I mean these are your friends! And if they can't do the problem, is it wrong if I/we harass them hard for their obvious weakness? I just don't see it. In the game of climbing, especially bouldering, step up or get stepped on.


To your friends, it's OK. :wink:

To strangers, you had better watch out, what you say. :wink:


Hey, I've had total strangers, who I looked up to point out my weaknesses and at the time I was taken back, but I have to say, thank you.

And making friends of partners is half the fun of being out during the day.

And when you get older, the leader MUST fall, trad, sport, on the hike in, getting out of the car at the trailhead, doesn't matter.
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Postby dan2see » Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:25 pm

climber555 wrote:Harassment and encouragement from your buddies go hand in hand while climbing.

Actually, this sort of stuff pisses me off.
A little respect goes a long way.

I like climbing.
On a sport route, you can't help me climb, so let me climb myself. I mean, while you're belaying, it's easy to watch the chicks, or the squirrels.
On trad routes, the big attraction is the solitude and peace. I love it up there!
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Re: Is it wrong to pick on those weaker than yourself?

Postby SKI » Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:39 pm

This just may be the greatest thread ever!

Trad ain't ice climbing.

Sooner or later, ya gotta take a screamer-

...Or face mind-sucking 5.6 climbing for the rest of your life!

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http://farm1.static.flickr.com/105/2946 ... b6.jpg?v=0[/img]
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Re: Is it wrong to pick on those weaker than yourself?

Postby CClaude » Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:43 pm

AlpineAffinity wrote:This just may be the greatest thread ever!

Trad ain't ice climbing.

Sooner or later, ya gotta take a screamer-

...Or face mind-sucking 5.6 climbing for the rest of your life!

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http://farm1.static.flickr.com/105/2946 ... b6.jpg?v=0[/img]


Off subject, but as I say, falling is a result not an action. You control your actions but not the results.
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Re: Is it wrong to pick on those weaker than yourself?

Postby ksolem » Fri Nov 05, 2010 4:04 pm

Actually, this sort of stuff pisses me off...
...On a sport route, you can't help me climb, so let me climb myself


Yeah, I'll never forget when The Scrutinizer gave me those few words of key beta which encouraged me to get that hard Josh classic first try. I was past the crux but I was fried, and the words floated up from below "you're there, just stand up and reach." The next thing I knew the jug was in my hand. That just really pissed me off.

falling is a result not an action. You control your actions but not the results.


I know that is kind of a "warriors way" thought process, but I prefer to think that decisions, and the resulting actions, have consequences. Which means of course that my decision to harass someone bouldering could lead to her punching me in the nose... (not that that has ever happenned...)
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Re: Is it wrong to pick on those weaker than yourself?

Postby CClaude » Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:27 pm

ksolem wrote:I know that is kind of a "warriors way" thought process, but I prefer to think that decisions, and the resulting actions, have consequences. Which means of course that my decision to harass someone bouldering could lead to her punching me in the nose... (not that that has ever happenned...)


Oh, I know that..... as a young punk I had a tub-o-lard football player throw me across the room when I told him that he should really consider getting into shape (he may have been a tub-o-lard but he was also twice my size).... oh well, you live and learn.

The process makes sense to me, you decide if specific risks are good risks for you, since not all risks are worth taking and then you concentrate on the actions. Sometimes the right decision is to runaway as fast as you can. Then if the situation changes the process, redefine what you need to. But if the decision is that the risk is reasonable, concentrate on the process and the actions. You control them. Holds break, you may smear off something, ...... the result is what it is.
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Postby Joe White » Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:33 pm

The Chief wrote:
Gary Schenk wrote:
The Chief wrote:If you don't or can't take whippers like I do trying to get the send...

YOU ARE A PUSSY!


I'm a pussy, I don't like to fall. The leader must not fall. Unless of course your sport climbing, then you can take those 3 foot whippers.


PUSSY!


hahahahahahaha

this thread is hilarious!
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Re: Is it wrong to pick on those weaker than yourself?

Postby simonov » Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:57 am

ShortTimer wrote:Is it wrong to pick on those weaker than yourself?


Isn't that what US foreign policy is based on?

If US foreign policy is wrong, I don't wanna be right!
Nunc est bibendum.
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