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Angeles Crest Highway

Postby tiogap » Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:16 am

I understand that ACH is opening the first weekend of December.
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Postby Luciano136 » Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:01 pm

Really?? All the way?
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Postby fatdad » Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:24 pm

Wow, that was fast. Need to get up with my road bike before the masses return.
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Postby Luciano136 » Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:29 pm

fatdad wrote:Wow, that was fast. Need to get up with my road bike before the masses return.


...and we all know that it will be closed down again after the first significant rain...
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Postby ksolem » Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:23 pm

Gary Schenk wrote:Hopefully some big sections will get wiped out this year due to the fire and rains. With the budget crisis, maybe they'll let it rot along with Hwy 39.


They'll threaten too. Then they'll raise some taxes. Then they'll let it rot anyway.
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Postby x15x15 » Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:26 pm

i hope they've built it bomb proof this time! am i the only one that likes the ACH?
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Postby ksolem » Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:41 pm

Figures we finally get some progress towards opening Mt Williamson again and now the road will be gone... :roll:

Gary, why do you hate ACH?
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Postby Luciano136 » Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:34 pm

x15x15 wrote:i hope they've built it bomb proof this time! am i the only one that likes the ACH?


I love ACH but not the crowds. I definitely hope the seasonal closure between Vincent Gap and Islip saddle remains in effect.
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Postby Luciano136 » Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:34 pm

Gary Schenk wrote:
ksolem wrote:Figures we finally get some progress towards opening Mt Williamson again and now the road will be gone... :roll:

Gary, why do you hate ACH?


I love long approaches. And want to see the San Gabriels go wild again, at least as much as possible.


Well, they did go wild, as in burned to the ground :D
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Postby Scott M. » Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:42 pm

I believe that is actually the day they are going to reopen the section from La Canada to Angeles Forest Highway - not the entire route.
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Postby Luciano136 » Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:52 pm

Scott M. wrote:I believe that is actually the day they are going to reopen the section from La Canada to Angeles Forest Highway - not the entire route.


Ah, yes, that would make sense because some people from the north side of the San Gabriels actually use that road.
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Postby tiogap » Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:01 am

Scott M. wrote:I believe that is actually the day they are going to reopen the section from La Canada to Angeles Forest Highway - not the entire route.


I stand corrected. Yes, I talked to someone today that confirmed that it is only the section from La Canada to the with Angeles Forest Highway that will open.
these roads are the jurisdiction of CalTrans, and LA County.
Ironically, the foerst service would rather the roads remain closed.
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Postby MCGusto » Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:01 pm

If you're into reading about whether there should or should not be roads into the "wild," I would recommend the book Desert Solitaire by Edward Abbey. It describes his personal experience about being a ranger in Arches National Park, I think, before there was an official "road." Interesting reading, to say the least.

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Red Box to Islip Saddle

Postby WileyCoyote » Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:27 pm

Why not just close ACH from Red Box or Chilao up to Islip Saddle and open Hwy 39 up to Crystal lake, but with a toll and waiver signed to go up from where it's currently closed to public to help cover costs of maintenance and rangers or other NPS personnel to police against littering.

They could also limit vehicle size past Clear Creek to Red Box/Chilao and "reopened" Hwy 39 to keep out large "recreational" vehicles. And police PCT and Gabrielino trail to keep mt. bikers off of there. Plenty of other trails for them to roam.
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