At what point does a beginner progress to an intermediate?

by **Clark_Griswold** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:18 am

With the semantics threads going strong, I thought I would add another.

When does a beginner climber become an intermediate climber. When they do their first class 5, when its an exposed 3, when they summit a high peak in winter, or when they are dam well good an ready?

by **ksolem** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:21 am

Intermediate=beginner... :wink:

by **Clark_Griswold** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:30 am

ksolem wrote:Intermediate=beginner...

Ouch!

Are you on a lap top with a wireless connection?

by **CClaude** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:51 am

why does it matter.....

In my mind I am a beginner, since everyday I'm out there I am always learning something new....

its called the beginners mind...........

by **FabienenCordoba** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:19 pm

CClaude wrote:its called the beginners mind...........

That's nice, and it's probably the best way to go from beginner to intermediate to master of the art! :lol:

Deleted User · by **Deleted User** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:28 pm

When they start calling ME with plans and objectives and goals and gear.

When they take the reigns of their own climbing. A lot of beginners never are able to rise to this self-starter status.

DMT

by **ksolem** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:25 pm

jhodlof wrote:
ksolem wrote:Intermediate=beginner...

Ouch!

Are you on a lap top with a wireless connection?

Ha! Just to be clear it was a joke. Right now I am a beginner all over again...

(don't think I was on the laptop when I posted that ...)

by **Luciano136** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:16 pm

Take a newb on an outing; you'll see what 'beginner' means :shock:

. I think there are a lot of small skills we take for granted after going out in the mountains for a few years.

by **Andinistaloco** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:46 pm

....Edited out a part I'm already sorry I mentioned....

CClaude wrote:why does it matter.....

In my mind I am a beginner, since everyday I'm out there I am always learning something new....

its called the beginners mind...........

I'm with you there. Zen mind, beginner's mind.

by **ksolem** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:11 pm

Perhaps more like "A key to achieving mastery is to know you are always beginning."

Not to put words in anyone's mouth. Just my take...

by **SpiderSavage** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:23 pm

Intermediate Requirements:
– TR a 5.9
– Bag Whitney by the Mountaineers Route
– Own all your own gear
– Know the grapevine knot and use it regularly
– Lead a 3-pitch route

...as decreed by Me, Mr. Know-It-All

by **Andinistaloco** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:28 pm

squishy wrote:So the sign of a true master is the claim that they are a beginner?

In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities - but in the expert's mind, there are few.

by **Snowslogger** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:54 pm

When you can go to sleep before a climb

by **Clark_Griswold** » Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:18 am

Snowslogger wrote:When you can go to sleep before a climb

I can always go to sleep. What does it mean when you have trouble waking up?

by **NeilD** » Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:45 am

When you progress from Green Circles to Blue Squares.

At what point does a beginner progress to an intermediate?

At what point does a beginner progress to an intermediate?

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