Looking for a Backpack/Climb for Wifey and Me

by **1000Pks** » Sat Jan 02, 2010 12:35 am

Wait. You think that text you quoted was an insult? I only wrote that because I had disagreed with part of your post, and I wanted it to be clear that I was only disagreeing with part of it. That's all! That's no insult, and it certainly doesn't warrant you feeling the need to retaliate by accusing me of being intoxicated.

Your accusations of drug use are completely inappropriate. You really know very little about people if you think I'm using because it's "this time of year." Not everybody drinks or smokes or shoots up on New Year's, if you can imagine that.

My disagreement with the criminalization of drug use is based on my opinion of drug use, in that it is a problem that is better dealt with in other ways and does not warrant criminal punishment. Try to imagine supporting a cause in which you have no direct personal gain.

Maybe with more social contact, you would have more insight as to what people are really like. But don't expect that anytime soon, at least not from anyone who knows anything about you. As for those on this site, people here have seen how you are and what you do. You talk about desiring some kind of résumé from people, just to go out and do a supposedly friendly social trip on class-1 to 3 stuff. But even a résumé isn't good enough because your default is to doubt everything that anybody claims to have done.

You make yourself look psychotic when you "investigate" to such an extent a potential partner for a social class-3 trip. You doubt someone's substantial list of summits, as if the person had the time and interest and knowledge to falsify a hundred separate summit logs on class-2, 3, and 4 peaks he didn't climb. Nobody wants to have a history that includes some very significant peak achievements, only to have 200 of his moderate achievements doubted by some guy who claims to have seen false peak résumés in the past, 30 years ago at the Sierra Club.

So there you go again in your above post, complaining that nobody wants to hook up with you for a hike. Are you really surprised? There are all kinds of people on this site that meet other people and go for hikes all the time. In order to achieve this they're not doing anything special; they're just not creeping people out by doing a 1000Pks P.I. investigation of their summit logs. I have met and hiked with several people from this site, and I didn't even have to solicit for partners in order to do so. Just don't creep people out, and you'll have better luck.

Acknowledgement of denial is the first step to recovery. You must have an issue as I am posting solely for a good reason--to inform people. Why I should get your slurs and this subsequent rant is beyond me. What reason to interpret my posts in this hateful way, most will infer some agenda. I don't know what your problem is, many people here do have one and happily admit it. Obviously you seek to pick a fight, similar for many MLC SC. Why that is, we can only speculate. I'd suggest an anger management class.

BTW, doesn't good dieting and exercise sound like the proper way to lose weight? Works for me!

by **DukeJH** » Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:13 pm

Thanks for the tip AlpineAffinity. That trip sounds awesome.

by **peladoboton** » Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:41 pm

i'd go for the trail that runs on the west side of the Tetons outside of Jackson Hole. its a great trail, plenty of wildlife, and if you guys get crazy there is much or as little climbing opportunity as one could handle.

afterwards there is jackson, my favorite town on earth for post-trip loitery (eat at the 'three little pigs'....love that spot!!!

by **fatdad** » Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:31 pm

OK, more on point with the suggestions. I think some nice three day trips, with good class 2 or 3 summits are the following:

Mt. Lyell--nice trip up Lyell Canyon and then climb a nice glacier to the summit.
Mt. Agassiz--pretty Bishop Pass area to a summit with awesome views of the Palisades.
Red and White Mt. --pretty hiking past some great geologic features and nice lakes to a pretty mellow class 3 summit.
Mt. Winchell--good views past Temple Crag, etc.; camp at Sam Mack Meadow then cross the Palisade Glacier to a nice summit with great views.

All of the above are easy class 3 with the exception of Agassiz, which is 2. To be honest, it would be pretty hard to have a bad trip anywhere in the Sierra, particularly starting from the east side.

by **MoapaPk** » Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:30 pm

OriginalPoster wrote:- Some snow is OK but glacier is not (consider her a beginner)

R.e. Lyell: Isn't this an ice-axe type climb, especially earlier in the summer? I seem to recall that people have taken big falls there on the glacier. Supposedly, if you hit the ridge lower down, the rock is more like class 3-4.

http://www.summitpost.org/route/155682/ ... acier.html
(check out "essential gear")

I've considered that hike for this summer.

by **1000Pks** » Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:49 pm

For the superfit, a good long snowshoe or ski is a fantastic way to lose weight. You can exert hugely, if you have the muscle/willpower, and burn a lot of calories while limited to your packed food. It's a pain to get started, but once you groove into the bc, it's an adventure. It requires lots of effort to travel in snow, like running on a beach, and bc skiing then with some uphill would be by far the most productive way to burn off fat.

To prepare for say a Trans-Sierra, where there are many routes to choose from, you can start running or even carry a loaded backpack while running/trotting. My old pal used to do this daily. He used a 50 pound concrete block.

You have to be your own drill instructor, although there are personal trainers, for a large fee. You may have to learn to savor your meals, rather than gulping food down. There's plenty of diet books and methods.

Given that you do train for some mountaineering goal, when you finish that, what then? Lots of Los Angeles people work on a peak list, usually a life time endeavor. You go out every weekend for a peak goal, and hike/climb/ski hard. The people that do complete a list goal are indeed fit people, they can keep going for many hours every day, on and on. Though for some that finish, I've seen some physical collapse. You might go on for a 2x finish as many will do, and by one, this gets into a multiple list finish, as many times as 18X (?), by them.

Although everyone gets old and dies, and as some will say, you can have bacon and eggs for breakfast (the gourmands) versus oatmeal (the health nuts), as it's your choice in life. Fitness freaks are looked on in disdain by many, Jack LaLanne is no big multi-millionaire. While he goes on past 90, that all gets quite the ridicule from many, as does us peak baggers. With the MLC SC ban, locals choose food, not fitness. What presumed mountaineering will get you here!

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