What's the basic sequence (from one anchor to the next) of aiding a pitch solo using the clove hitch method? And is it possible with a pair of twin ropes?

there's some info here...
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=671226

No, you can't use twin ropes.

Take one 10-15' fall on a clove hitch and you'll seize the knot up tighter than a 2000 yr old witches nipple. You'll then have to cut the rope... trust me. Been there and done and it SUCKS!!!




Get one of these...

Or learn how to adapt and use one of these....

I use both on a regular basis...


Why would you want to use TWIN ROPES?

You want to trail a 9-11mm static zip/rap line equal in length to your primary in order to jug/haul on anyway.

Counter rapping/hauling is blast and far more efficient any day....

+ 1 to both Rob and Chief.

NO TWINS !

Never used the Solo Aide, but The tapped Gri Gri works well. I've cloved, whipped and cut. Sucks.

Just a question so please don't take offense... but, if your ask'n about a basic sequence and whether or not twins are appropriate... uhhhhhhhhh, errrrrrrrrrrrrrr... solo aide ??????????????

no offense taken. just curiosity. not planning on soloing any time in the near future whatsoever. thanks for the info.

I am not ready to solo aid either. Never actually been aid climbing at all. What is the advantage to the solo aid or grigri? Obviously the solo aid is meant for soloing and the grigri is not but the grigri strikes me as easier. Or are they simply used in different situations? I do understand that the solo aid must have rope fed menaully and the grigri doesnt require this.

Just Curious

one more thing came to mind. if you have to feed rope manually anyway couldn't you just use an atc guide or a reverso 3 in the autolock mode? I'm thinking attach the metal loop to your harness and then set it up like you would for a belay directly off the anchor. You would have to feed the rope manually just like a solo aid. The only issue i can see would be the device not being strong enough but id think it would be.
Personally the grigri with backup knots seems the best to me. It looks like it could be used for both solo aid anbd free climbing.

mbmsfreerider wrote: It looks like it could be used for both solo aid and free climbing.

BINGO!

That is why I now use a Gri Gri as my primary Solo Aid Device.

You can switch from aid to free and feed the rope easier than you can with a Solo Aid.

does this require a chest harness? It seems to me that as long as the rope sides are correct it will lock regardless of orientation or what way you put it on your harness (rightside up or upside down).

Do you use the solo mod on your grigri chief?

I have heard multiple views on using a grigri. Some say it shortropes you all the time and others say the rope whizzes through it and creates slack. I can see it changing also where it shortropes early in a pitch and creates slack at the end.
Will a grigri let rope slide through fast enough to aid or free climb at a some what normal pace without locking up and shortroping you? When thinking about this I am assuming the user is just letting the grigri hang fron their harness and isn't using a chest harness

BUMP!

I was wondering how to mod a gri gri to be able to free climb. I have looked a different web sites, and found different mods and don't know which one to use and works best. Is there a site anyone knows of with detailed photos and a good description of how to properly mod a gri gri to free climb?

BUMP

http://ulrichprinz.de/alpin/equipment/selfmade/

There is also a link provided to Nathan Beckwith's page labeld "local copy" and highlighted in blue. Prinze and Beckwith somewhat contrast in the need to saw or grind the ear ("flap"). Could give you a quick ride to the deck if you invert.