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Jacinto/Gorgonio/Mt Baldy

Postby WoundedKnee » Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:41 pm

I'm going to be in the area for work next week, but am arriving early to try to climb the peaks mentioned in the title between Sun Apr 17 and Wed Apr 21. I'd like to avoid the trams, so I'm planning on the following dayhikes:

Jacinto via Humber Park/Devil's Slide or the Marion Mountain Trail

Gorgonio via South Fork

Baldy via Bear Canyon/Baldy Village (although I'm doing this third and may use the lift)

I was hoping for some insight from you native SoCal'ers. First, I am packing ice axe/crampons, but don't have snowshoes. Is this going to be much of a problem? Also, is ascent via Marion Mtn or Humber Park a better idea with current conditions?

I've checked the relevant discussion boards regarding current conditions, but if anyone has any recent info I'd appreciate that too.

Thanks!
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Postby Carbo » Wed Apr 14, 2010 5:15 pm

I did San Jacinto from Marion Mt. recently and found no use for snow shoes. Crampons was needed in places. A GPS might be helpful too as I lost the trail past the first junction
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Postby Luciano136 » Wed Apr 14, 2010 5:20 pm

This time of the year, you normally don't need snowshoes. You might have a few spots on Gorgonio but I wouldn't haul up that weight.
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Postby WoundedKnee » Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:12 pm

Thanks! Appreciate the info.
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Postby Hyadventure » Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:43 pm

I was up San G Sunday. I can confirm there's no need for snowshoes. We did get a little new snow Monday, but I don't think it'll change things much. South Fork is a long trail and I'd expect about 90% snow travel, that may make it hard to bag the summit. Vivian trail may be more realistic.
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Postby jspears0001 » Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:05 pm

I was at Baldy on Saturday and went up via the Baldy Bowl. Snowline was around ~8K or so and really good in the morning. There was another 6-8" of new snow dropped Sunday night so I would venture to guess that conditions would be fairly good.

Bear Canyon is really a "bear". Depending on what you're looking to do, I recommend the Baldy Bowl route for a good snow route that is a good workout but not quite as severe.

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Postby Luciano136 » Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:37 pm

So, to the hut is pretty much clear? I'm looking to run up to the hut and back for some exercise but definitely don't want to bring crampons.
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Postby drpw » Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:19 am

Luciano136 wrote:So, to the hut is pretty much clear? I'm looking to run up to the hut and back for some exercise but definitely don't want to bring crampons.


No crampons necessary until the hut on Monday, I'd bet that the snow is even less now.
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Postby asmrz » Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:39 am

Went up Deer Springs trail to Suicide this afternoon, snow cover starts at about 7.500' on San Jacinto. Crampons, ice axe will be needed, trail will be snow-covered by the time one gets to 8,500 or so.
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Postby jspears0001 » Thu Apr 15, 2010 4:39 pm

That's correct. I didn't hit really any snow until right at the hut. I believe I crossed 5-6 patches of snow below the hut on the trail however they were small sections.
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Postby WoundedKnee » Thu Apr 15, 2010 5:02 pm

Thanks again for the conditions update and advice, everyone.

I thought the Vivian Creek route would be very steep and icy, so I hadn't really considered that, but the shorter/steeper route does appeal to me.

I had also discounted the Baldy Bowl, thinking rockfall would be a problem, but I'd prefer that route. Might just get an early start.
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Postby harryquach » Thu Apr 15, 2010 5:37 pm

Just be sure and get an early start if you are going up the bowl. Every time I have seen rockfall it has been after around 9AM
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Postby Luciano136 » Thu Apr 15, 2010 5:43 pm

WoundedKnee wrote:Thanks again for the conditions update and advice, everyone.

I thought the Vivian Creek route would be very steep and icy, so I hadn't really considered that, but the shorter/steeper route does appeal to me.

I had also discounted the Baldy Bowl, thinking rockfall would be a problem, but I'd prefer that route. Might just get an early start.


Vivian Creek is steep for the first mile but then it's relatively mellow. Since it's mostly south facing, it melts out a lot faster. Nonetheless, any day trip up Gorgonio is a bear of a hike.

A combo I like on Baldy, is going up the Bowl and then down the backbone and take the skilift down. It makes you see two sides of the mountain and saves your knees a bit on the downhill. The bowl does get rockfall but it's a huge wide open slope, so you can usually see it coming.
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Postby Hyadventure » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:34 pm

Looks like the weather is going to be shaky Monday through Wednesday. Shouldn’t be bad enough to abort, but not the sunny and bright you’d hope for this time of year.

Vivian: There’s very little snow on the trail below Vivian Creek (7000’). After that it was about 98% snow travel as of (4-10).

Baldy: The baldy bowl and the devils backbone are a must do. I did it on New Years Eve, before there was much of a snowpack and there was some rock fall. Maybe a half dozen rocks whizzed past us. It probably has a better snowpack now and it shouldn’t be as much of a problem. Don’t forget to bring $20 for a bite to eat and a ride down.

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