by surgent » Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:12 pm
Dingus Milktoast wrote:surgent wrote:My point was that I believe there are many, many kids who have the maturity and skill to pull off feats such as this (or similar), but since most will never have the circumstances (cash and related) to attempt the dream as children, we must view Abby's situation as highly unique, and to not judge "all the rest" as lazy dorito-eating blobs because they didn't share Abby's circumstances.
Ah, got it thanks.There's still the ethical issue of allowing your child (<18yo) to do this, no matter the situation.
Agreed, as there is for sending a child off to war.You can be impressed and heartened by Abby all you want.
Why thank you. I'm not organizing a parade mind you.\She seems like a good kid. But don't lose sight of the surrounding details. Had her folks said "no, you can wait until you're 18 to sail solo", would we have thought less of her?
We wouldn't know about her so yes, clearly we would have thought less of her.
by chugach mtn boy » Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:34 pm
Dingus Milktoast wrote:And we DO send children off to war, and have done so since the inception of our nation.
by kozman18 » Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:47 pm
Dingus Milktoast wrote:zodis wrote:So what if she makes some money from the adventure? What's wrong with that? I hope she makes plenty. It's not like she's selling drugs or robbing banks. I think she's offering a positive role model, not like another Hollywood strumpet.
So what if other kids with less money could have accomplished what she did? The fact is that she did and they didn't.
The ironic thing is many climbers spend countless hours dreaming up ways to make money from their adventure - guiding, writing, making videos, ski patrol, SAR, administration, etc.
Climbers going off to do some rad FA in the hinterlands somewhere, doing fund raising and getting mfg's to donate gear, etc.
Funding mechanisms. Whatever.
Dingus Milktoast wrote:Allow me to explain - I have daughters; several. No sons.
by mrchad9 » Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:04 pm
kozman18 wrote:there are way better role models for young girls/women than a girl who is given a $X00,000 yacht, money to outfit and provision the yacht, and has her own publicist. As my kids were growing up there were way too many of those "role models" floating around for my taste.
If either of my daughters wanted to sail solo around the world, I would absolutely encourage them to pursue their dream, but I wouldn't point to Abby as the way to do it. And I wouldn't hand her a yacht (that's an easy statement, cuz I couldn't afford it). She may be a good role model in the abstract sense (yes, "pursue your dream"), but she's not, IMO, a good role model in reality. Too much bad baggage in that story (in fairness, a lot, if not all, comes from the parents -- Abby may be a true adventurer at heart -- but she is under some bad outside influence).
by kozman18 » Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:20 pm
by chugach mtn boy » Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:36 pm
Dingus Milktoast wrote:Allow me to explain - I have daughters; several. No sons. I firmly believe that teenage girls need role models just as do teenage boys. But what sorts of role models are there?
by Diggler » Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:17 pm
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