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Postby Charles » Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:03 am

I agree with what he´s saying there. Also when people have their needs coverred (food, warmth etc) more whealth doesn´t make for more happiness or satisfaction.

As for chief´s links - good those!
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Postby The Chief » Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:14 pm

I left the BEST MOTIVATOR for last.

You are absolutely right, it ain't no shit. Just great examples of the positive powerful energy that motivates a select few of us to head out and climb daily ... just for the simple joy of doing so.

It is documented accomplishments like the one above and the rest that I posted, that remind me on a regular basis why I love climbing so much. More importantly, why I do it and have done so for most of this life here on earth.

God I love that guy... what a daily inspiration he is to carry on, continue to apply my all, never losing site of the real precious goal and to go forth and do it, daily.
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Postby Charles » Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:04 pm

The Chief wrote:I left the BEST MOTIVATOR for last.

You are absolutely right, it ain't no shit. Just great examples of the positive powerful energy that motivates a select few of us to head out and climb daily ... just for the simple joy of doing so.

It is documented accomplishments like the one above and the rest that I posted, that remind me on a regular basis why I love climbing so much. More importantly, why I do it and have done so for most of this life here on earth.

God I love that guy... what a daily inspiration he is to carry on, continue to apply my all, never losing site of the real precious goal and to go forth and do it, daily.

And I´d like to give a plug to the guy who shot the video too- Jonathan Griffith!
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Postby The Chief » Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:32 pm

charles wrote:And I´d like to give a plug to the guy who shot the video too- Jonathan Griffith!


HERE is my "plug" for Jonathan. Another one of his great pieces in which he himself is in.

Great Motivating Stuff also as Charles states...
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Postby MoapaPk » Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:47 pm

What motivates people to spend hours producing elaborate SP trip reports? Well, the REI power points discount is a big push. Some want to pass on information that is best heralded in a personal account, and such people may be altruistic. Some are motivated by "look at me!". After that, we have a lot of engineer/coder-type wonks who get off on making all the details work together to produce a pretty product. That's the positive spin. There is also an element of OCD, which I saw a lot when I was trying to "motivate" people to finish projects.
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Postby EricChu » Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:58 pm

The Chief wrote:
charles wrote:And I´d like to give a plug to the guy who shot the video too- Jonathan Griffith!


HERE is my "plug" for Jonathan. Another one of his great pieces in which he himself is in.

Great Motivating Stuff also as Charles states...
Dear Chief, thanks for the tip!! That video is absolutely fantastic!! What photography, what quality! A superb job this Jonathan Griffith did!
I just had to chuckle a bit over his ever so british "Pewtry" ridge... :lol:
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Postby adventurer » Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:09 pm

There is no substitute for self motivation.
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Postby kevin trieu » Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:32 pm

Why do you need motivation to do something you love? I don't get it. Do you need motivation to have sex?
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Postby mrchad9 » Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:37 pm

Great point Kevin. I never understood all the hero worshipping myself. I don't worship porn stars either.
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Postby mrchad9 » Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:55 pm

Vitaliy- I see in your original, still unedited post above, you reference training as well. I understand that perfectly well.

My comment, and perhaps Kevin's, was in not following the need for motivation, which I characterized as hero worshipping. Was not- or at least am not now- accusing you of such activities.
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Postby Charles » Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:05 pm

The Chief wrote:
charles wrote:And I´d like to give a plug to the guy who shot the video too- Jonathan Griffith!


HERE is my "plug" for Jonathan. Another one of his great pieces in which he himself is in.

Great Motivating Stuff also as Charles states...


Good post! I´ve seen that, and many more of his vids. His web site is also worth looking at!!!
http://www.alpineexposures.com/
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Postby Charles » Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:11 pm

mrchad9 wrote:Great point Kevin. I never understood all the hero worshipping myself. I don't worship porn stars either.

A bit of hero worship when one is young is OK, I think, it goes with the "man I´d love to be able to do that". After a while though respect is more meaningful - and sometimes the people one respects were not the ones who were worshipped in younger days.
PS. I would also add that respect is a wide term too - respect for deeds, for beliefs, for what a person is. The latter is, maybe most important, one can respect deeds but think the person is a real schmuck.
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Postby Dow Williams » Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:37 am

Vitaliy M wrote:Respect myself for the work I was able to do with my own body (I used to be obese 300lb guy with bad habits), fears, changing habits (a lot tougher than climbing any mountain in my opinion), etc.


"Now everybody look at their vagina in the mirror" Fried Green Tomatoes....classic I need to love myself more stuff
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Postby Ze » Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:05 am

KristoriaBlack wrote:Grrrrrrrrrr. :evil: :evil: :evil:

All this armchair philosophy is fine and dandy until CIHR or NIH justifies paying a PhD graduate $35,000 because of videos like this.

Yup. That's what a postdoc gets paid: after a 8-10 years of post-secondary education one gets paid 35K because "you get to do what you love," "you need to be motivated by science not money".

Why don't you use that line on the MD making a 6 figure salary? Or the CEO making a 7 figure salary?

I have an idea for the next video: Try studing the effects of cutting their salaries of a CEO or MD to that of a researcher's and see how motivated they remain. :shock:

(Have to confess. Couldn't finish watching your video. Not enough motivation.)


that video is right on the mark. if you are really doing something you enjoy, money probably isn't the motivating factor. and if you suddenly increase a postdoc salary to $80k, there's probably other responsibilities / less flexibility that reduces their motivation.

sure, I wouldn't mind doing a post-doc at a higher salary all else staying the same, but why would that happen? post-docs generally produce publications that only have a certain amount of real-world applicability, and get paid accordingly.
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