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Creating a page and saving in draft - possible?

Postby ojo » Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:12 pm

Hi guys. I've read FAQ but...

I'd like to write a trip report but sure I'm going to take ages doing it. The text is written in word so can be pasted in, but the refining - text, colour, adding photos etc - will probably take time.

Can I save a draft and come back later or does it all have to be done in one go?

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Postby Bob Sihler » Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:18 pm

You can't save a draft here, but some of us have created custom objects so that we can work on a page at our own pace, set up pictures, etc. When ready, we just copy and paste the whole thing as a new page.

Here is my custom object. I am working on a route page right now and will be done in a couple days-- http://www.summitpost.org/custom-object/307131/page-workshop.html.

Thank you for asking and showing concern about this. Too many members, new and veteran alike, put up incomplete pages and take their sweet time finishing them. It is a real pet peeve around here.
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Postby nartreb » Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:58 pm

Or just start your trip report and write "under construction" at the top. Nobody minds if you do this with a trip report, what annoys people is when somebody starts a Mountain or Route page with no intention to finish anytime soon. The rule for 'real-world objects' is that you shouldn't "reserve" them before you're ready to build a complete page, but trip reports are different. Your incomplete trip report isn't denying anybody else a chance to create their own.
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Postby Augie Medina » Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:10 pm

Ojo,

Bob offers a great solution. However, note that his "drafts" receive top votes despite being unfinished pages. Your results may not be the same (at least until you get real good. :) Glad you're going to contribute.
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Postby JasonH » Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:55 pm

I write my pages on microsoft word, and then copy and paste onto SP when I'm done.
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Postby MarkDidier » Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:12 pm

The time it takes me to start and finish a Trip Report usually is a few hours or less - once I have all of my prework completed.

I always upload all of my pictures that I want to include before I start the TR.
I create a list of all of the Image IDs for the pics I want to attach.
I write up the entire report in Microsoft Word and spell check prior to importing into TR.
I then hit "Create Page" for the TR, name it "UNDER CONSTRUCTION" and import all of the text (creating as many sections as I want).
After all that is completed I include the pictures.
What takes the longest is the large number of times I have to edit the TR to get the pictures to line up the way I want.

Don't forget to "attach" the pictures to the TR.

My opinion, but unless there is a really good reason, every TR should be attached to a page - Mountain/Rock, Area/Range, Route, etc. If the TR doesn't get attached then it will get few if any reads after 7 days. Attaching it to an "Area, etc." helps those of us looking for beta about an area (I have the same opinion about albums as well) and makes your work more valuable to the SP community. If the document doesn't get attached to something, after 7 days your work will basically just be taking up band width.
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Postby Augie Medina » Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:31 pm

MarkDidier wrote:The time it takes me to start and finish a Trip Report usually is a few hours or less - once I have all of my prework completed.

I then hit "Create Page" for the TR, name it "UNDER CONSTRUCTION" and import all of the text (creating as many sections as I want).


No reason to put "Under Construction" as long as you've not hit the "Submit Object" button, right?



MarkDidier wrote:My opinion, but unless there is a really good reason, every TR should be attached to a page - Mountain/Rock, Area/Range, Route, etc.


I think so too.
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Postby MarkDidier » Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:46 pm

Mountain Impulse wrote:No reason to put "Under Construction" as long as you've not hit the "Submit Object" button, right?


Since I am never happy with my first version (after hitting Submit Object) and have to do lots of editing to format pictures, I usually do use Under Construction for the title. This at least lets anyone that chooses to read it before I'm done editing know that I'm not finished. It's a personal preference, by no means necessary.
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Postby ojo » Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:31 am

Thanks, everyone.

Just to confirm - any imported fotos will appear in "new images", right? No way of doing a block up-load?

What's going to take the longest for me is all the html formatting (shaping the page).

We'll see.

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Re: Creating a page and saving in draft - possible?

Postby Tonka » Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:09 pm

I'm at a loss as to how one would use Bob's object to create a page. Being a newbie page creater but a long time member I figured it was about time I put something up besides a random photo or useless banter. Is using Word just as easy?
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Postby MoapaPk » Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:32 pm

ojo wrote:Thanks, everyone.

Just to confirm - any imported fotos will appear in "new images", right? No way of doing a block up-load?

What's going to take the longest for me is all the html formatting (shaping the page).

We'll see.

¡saludos a todos!



If you have a PC, you can use the bulk uploader for images. If you are fairly computer literate, and have an editor on your computer that will allow exif editing (irfanview does so and is free), you can embed the picture headers and captions in the photos before they are uploaded; the program automagically makes SP pages with that info. The bulk uploader returns with a list of the image numbers and the titles, which you can then use to speed report generation (if you do that stuff manually).

Some people have gotten expert enough with the obscure report format, that they just embed the html codes directly in their word files, before they post. You can always see how other folks did it by viewing the "source" for a particular page you admire (right click on the page...).
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