Calcium, magnesium or potassium for stiff muscles?

Discussion of medical or rescue topics related to climbing and mountaineering.
User Avatar
Diego Sahagún

 
Posts: 14465
Joined: Sun Oct 07, 2001 6:21 pm
Thanked: 748 times in 682 posts

by Diego Sahagún » Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:03 pm

Overhaul

User Avatar
Diego Sahagún

 
Posts: 14465
Joined: Sun Oct 07, 2001 6:21 pm
Thanked: 748 times in 682 posts

by Diego Sahagún » Sun Aug 15, 2010 8:03 am

I'm having a fucking pain (8/10) that makes sleep almost imposible. Any recommendations would be needed

User Avatar
Diego Sahagún

 
Posts: 14465
Joined: Sun Oct 07, 2001 6:21 pm
Thanked: 748 times in 682 posts

by Diego Sahagún » Sun Aug 15, 2010 8:25 am

tigerlilly wrote:Well, I'm not a doctor, but it sounds like you have a ruptured disk in your neck.

check this out it has some helpful information:
http://orthoinfo.aaos.org/topic.cfm?top ... urn_link=0

Tiger, that's so useful. I must be optimistic and not dull as I am with such pain. It's somehow difficult but I must do it

User Avatar
MoapaPk

 
Posts: 7780
Joined: Fri May 13, 2005 7:42 pm
Thanked: 787 times in 519 posts

by MoapaPk » Sun Aug 15, 2010 1:21 pm

Kudos to Tigerlily. Good Luck to OP. Get a GOOD surgeon for a consultation; ask athlete friends, and query physical therapists for their opinions about the best surgeons. They see a lot of botched jobs.

For my wife, a microdiskectomy in the lower spine was day surgery, and the pain was gone after. For my boss, a collapsed subarachnoid space in the cervical spine put him in the hospital for about 2 weeks. It varies a lot!

User Avatar
Diego Sahagún

 
Posts: 14465
Joined: Sun Oct 07, 2001 6:21 pm
Thanked: 748 times in 682 posts

by Diego Sahagún » Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:12 am

What's OP :?:

I must to wait my doctor to come from holidays so I'm taking the pils he's said and putting ice in the area when it hurts the most. It's somehow hard but I could be improving with time and those cares. Perhaps when doctors come from holidays I could be attended by a overhaul specialist

User Avatar
Woodie Hopper

 
Posts: 456
Joined: Sun Aug 21, 2005 6:06 pm
Thanked: 28 times in 24 posts

by Woodie Hopper » Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:51 pm

[quote="Diego Sahagún"]What's OP :?:

OP= original (first) poster

In this case the "OP" is you.

I hope you are able to get some relief soon.

Best regards,

Woodie

User Avatar
MoapaPk

 
Posts: 7780
Joined: Fri May 13, 2005 7:42 pm
Thanked: 787 times in 519 posts

by MoapaPk » Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:57 pm

Now they say that 90% of back injuries get better on their own, given time and caution in exercise.

User Avatar
tigerlilly

 
Posts: 721
Joined: Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:09 am
Thanked: 56 times in 37 posts

by tigerlilly » Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:30 pm

Just got back from vacation.

Sorry to hear this, Diego. All is not lost. This is the area that my husband hurt, at nearly the same time you did, sounds like. Here is what we discovered:

1) This is what our doctor basically told my husband "If you go easy...it will fix itself. If you had come in right after your pain started, I would have recommended surgery. But since you have gone so long with this pain, you can obviously handle it. I'll see you in 3 months and we will reevaluate."

2) Do not lift anything! I lift all heavy objects for my husband, (suitcases, etc.) so his back will not become worse.

3) The doctor gave him little exercises to strengthen his back. I'll see if I can get those for you. They might help.

4) My neighbor explained it like this, which I found to be a useful illustration: "Your disk is like a jelly filled donut. The donut was pressed and the filling oozed out. The filling is now touching your nerve, that is why it hurts. The body will reabsorb the oozed out filling, in time."

6) My husband liked this book:
"Do You Really Need Back Surgery?" by Aaron Filler. Here is the link:

http://www.amazon.com/You-Really-Need-B ... =1-1-spell

7) Try to go easy on the pain relief meds. They are really horrible for the liver. I saw the liver of a dead lion (dont ask) that was on pain relief meds. It was black and pot marked to hell.

8) My husband finds sitting too long is the worst thing (eg: long airline flights, car rides, etc)
He finds standing up now and then helps.

Hope some of this is useful
Feel Better,
TL

User Avatar
Diego Sahagún

 
Posts: 14465
Joined: Sun Oct 07, 2001 6:21 pm
Thanked: 748 times in 682 posts

by Diego Sahagún » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:08 am

Thanks a lot my good friends Woodie, Moapa and Tiger. I don't know what to say now :oops:

Well, these days I'm sleeping on a sit position or similar. Tonight I tried to sleep with an only pillow and I awoke at 4:30 AM having a hard pain (8/10). It's been a real mess, believe me
Last edited by Diego Sahagún on Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:21 am, edited 1 time in total.

User Avatar
Diego Sahagún

 
Posts: 14465
Joined: Sun Oct 07, 2001 6:21 pm
Thanked: 748 times in 682 posts

by Diego Sahagún » Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:13 am

Perhaps I'm getting better but this is slow and I'm well prepared for it. This is the first night in August that I'm in SP before going to bed :)

I leave anyway

User Avatar
MoapaPk

 
Posts: 7780
Joined: Fri May 13, 2005 7:42 pm
Thanked: 787 times in 519 posts

by MoapaPk » Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:33 am

Good luck, and I hope you find some peace!

User Avatar
tigerlilly

 
Posts: 721
Joined: Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:09 am
Thanked: 56 times in 37 posts

by tigerlilly » Fri Aug 27, 2010 4:52 am

good night! sweet dreams :wink:

User Avatar
Diego Sahagún

 
Posts: 14465
Joined: Sun Oct 07, 2001 6:21 pm
Thanked: 748 times in 682 posts

by Diego Sahagún » Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:37 am

Thanks mates

User Avatar
RayMondo

 
Posts: 349
Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:24 pm
Thanked: 140 times in 116 posts

by RayMondo » Sat Aug 28, 2010 11:02 pm

Diego, the discs can bulge without leaking their fluid. That's obviously better than leaking. Sure it's true they can heal by themselves. Be sure not to compress that side.

I get some trouble in the lower back when I go at things too hard, though use a technique of elongating myself when lying down in bed. And we all "grow" in our sleep, or when lying down. The load is released from the spine, which helps any bulges in the donut discs to shrink back.

So don't pack carry, dig, heavy lift etc. And when carrying, carry equally weight on each side. Not carry the shopping all on one side. Think before you act, as reaching forward and lifting even a light load at arms length subjects the spine and frame to high stresses. So be gentle with yourself.

Keep up the extended rest, walk, and over time, some months it is possible to recover.

User Avatar
Diego Sahagún

 
Posts: 14465
Joined: Sun Oct 07, 2001 6:21 pm
Thanked: 748 times in 682 posts

by Diego Sahagún » Sat Aug 28, 2010 11:41 pm

I know it Ray, thank you very much anyway

PreviousNext

Return to Mountain Medicine & Rescue

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests