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by **mrchad9** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:00 am

1 day Bob... Go for it!

(but actually I wouldn't worry about deleting trip reports so quickly)

by **Bob Sihler** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:04 am

Proterra wrote:
yatsek wrote:
Bob Sihler wrote:
yatsek wrote:Tarnica
Bieszczady
Krzemieniec
Halicz

I have sent an email to the owner since he was recently active. In it, I have explained that his pages need work and that there are people interested in doing it, and I have asked if he is willing to share or transfer. Also, I have said that if he keeps the pages but does not improve them, I will probably transfer them to the interested parties.

Well see how he responds, if he does, and go from there.

First and foremost, thank you for your time and effort. Second, I think I can (based on what I've seen just recently) predict what happens: The owner offers to share, somebody gets attracted and starts doing the job while the owner doesn't even bother to reply to his admin's emails, the other guy gets frustrated and takes his stuff off the page. The question remains: Why do such owners "create" a mtn/area page instead of an album (not to mention things such as having another pint in the local) – to stop others having fun

Ania has now signed up to SP, so I reckon these pages could be adopted. Me and LukZem more or less agreed with Ania taking ownership of the Area/Range page, and LukZem of the three mountain pages. with the other getting admin rights to the respective pages, and me on the background as an editor (Ania's English is not so great...)
I know Ania (who's in Zawiercie right now, so I don't know what she and LukZem have discussed already) and LukZem have exchanged some pm's lately, so maybe they can come out of this thread and share their insights with us...
PM has been sent to both.

Cheers,
Clint.

Okay, it's done. Let me know if I messed anything up.

Welcome, Ania, and thanks for wanting to be a contributor here!

by **yatsek** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:05 pm

Bob Sihler wrote:Okay, it's done. Let me know if I messed anything up.

Thanks on behalf of all the interested critters - two of the pages have already changed quite a bit, and I bet they'll be further developed. For now, I hope you find them complete:
http://www.summitpost.org/mountain/rock ... rnica.html
http://www.summitpost.org/mountain/rock ... eniec.html

by **Fred Spicker** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:00 pm

by **Bob Sihler** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:53 pm

Hey everyone, the more bad pages you report here in the next few days, the better. After the purge next week, there will be no bringing them back if the owners reappear and whine. I have been doing quite a bit of nuking on my own the past few days.

by **mrchad9** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:10 am

Bob Sihler wrote:Hey everyone, the more bad pages you report here in the next few days, the better. After the purge next week, there will be no bringing them back if the owners reappear and whine. I have been doing quite a bit of nuking on my own the past few days.

You can also claim their is always no bringing them back. What is anyone going to do about it?

by **Bob Sihler** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:42 am

mrchad9 wrote:
Bob Sihler wrote:Hey everyone, the more bad pages you report here in the next few days, the better. After the purge next week, there will be no bringing them back if the owners reappear and whine. I have been doing quite a bit of nuking on my own the past few days.

You can also claim their is always no bringing them back. What is anyone going to do about it?

As long as there's a way, there's a will (to whine). :wink:

by **Fred Spicker** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:59 am

by **Fred Spicker** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:37 pm

by **visentin** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:50 pm

sjarelkwint wrote:Instead of deleting them, can't you give them up for adopting? Might be a faster way to find new and better owners ...

Better creating a new page for the empty ones. For those containing a small information, given the content, it's not much fuss to do a CTRL C + V
Creating a new page has the advantage that old bad votes will be gone and the page will be visible in what's new

by **Bob Sihler** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:12 pm

sjarelkwint wrote:Instead of deleting them, can't you give them up for adopting? Might be a faster way to find new and better owners ...

People are aways willing to offer, but I'm not likely to make a lot of progress by waiting around for people to step up. It's easier to delete and make the mountain "available" to someone else. In the past few days, I've gotten rid of about 150 pages of various sorts; now someone else is free to start anew.

by **Bubba Suess** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:12 pm

visentin wrote:
sjarelkwint wrote:Instead of deleting them, can't you give them up for adopting? Might be a faster way to find new and better owners ...

Better creating a new page for the empty ones. For those containing a small information, given the content, it's not much fuss to do a CTRL C + V
Creating a new page has the advantage that old bad votes will be gone and the page will be visible in what's new

If you put them up for adoption for a while at least, then people will know they are available. If they are just nuked, then they may pass without people knowing they can be replaced.

Perhaps a forum thread could be developed listing what has been deleted. I know someone could scan this thread, but if there is a thread in each regional forum listing what in that area has been put up for adoption/deleted, it would be easier and quicker to pick up replacement pages.

by **Bob Sihler** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:20 pm

Thanks, Fred. I've nuked them all except the ones below:

Fred Spicker wrote:Time to let someone start over on this one – page / route / trip report – link only

http://www.summitpost.org/mountain/rock ... tooth.html

http://www.summitpost.org/route/158234/ ... -face.html

I was looking at those pages last night, actually, and decided to hold off on deleting them. They're not good, especially the mountain page, but the route looks marginally sufficient. I figured that with that element of doubt, I should hold off.

Do you know the mountain at all? Are the pages useless?

by **Bob Sihler** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:23 pm

Bubba Suess wrote:
visentin wrote:
sjarelkwint wrote:Instead of deleting them, can't you give them up for adopting? Might be a faster way to find new and better owners ...

Better creating a new page for the empty ones. For those containing a small information, given the content, it's not much fuss to do a CTRL C + V
Creating a new page has the advantage that old bad votes will be gone and the page will be visible in what's new

If you put them up for adoption for a while at least, then people will know they are available. If they are just nuked, then they may pass without people knowing they can be replaced.

Perhaps a forum thread could be developed listing what has been deleted. I know someone could scan this thread, but if there is a thread in each regional forum listing what in that area has been put up for adoption/deleted, it would be easier and quicker to pick up replacement pages.

It's a good idea, but I just don't have the time for something like that. There are so many pages that should be adopted or deleted. Therefore, I have to rely on people contacting us. There are exceptions; for example, the other night I put out a request for people to adopt Weavers Needle, one of the most spectacular peaks in Arizona and a page badly in need of some care.

by **mrchad9** » Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:56 pm

Bob- Maybe just list items that have been deleted that were created over 1 year ago.

Just an option. Up to you!

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