The book was very wet, and there was a substantial amount of ice in the register. The bottle leaks.

We tried to put the register back so that it will drain. The next group up -- perhaps next spring -- might replace the bottle and leave the book out to dry for a bit.

Ut oh! Who's gonna rescue the Jolly Llama?

I wouldn't worry about it. Registers are probably illegal in Zion, too. Anyway, who would know if the entries are done via UPS or who, taken from the summit, shipped overnight to whoever to be signed in, and then quickly returned, no one noticing? Even for $100, it's cheaper and better than having to climb the peak yourself, by the local enviro club.

1000Pks wrote:I wouldn't worry about it. Registers are probably illegal in Zion, too. Anyway, who would know if the entries are done via UPS or who, taken from the summit, shipped overnight to whoever to be signed in, and then quickly returned, no one noticing? Even for $100, it's cheaper and better than having to climb the peak yourself, by the local enviro club.

This wasn't sent by UPS; there was a FedEx sticker on it.

Pete, I hope you are being a bit humorous. There is no easy route to South Guardian. If you took down the register, you would have to get it back up soon (say within a week); you would have to be extremely masochistic to repeat that climb in such a short interval. That's one climb I wouldn't do alone -- too many chances for bad outcomes; so you would need conspirators in on the sham. By the shortest route (not requiring a permit), it's about 13 miles RT with some very nasty terrain. The "hike" is best done in cool weather, and in such times, the days are short and don't give a lot of room for error.

MoapaPk wrote:That's one climb I wouldn't do alone -- too many chances for bad outcomes ... By the shortest route (not requiring a permit), it's about 13 miles RT with some very nasty terrain. The "hike" is best done in cool weather, and in such times, the days are short and don't give a lot of room for error.

Aaah, memories of my first attempt of SGA. Started out alone one spring (?) morning, with no clear idea how to get anywhere near that beautiful beast. That's some rugged country! Ended up spending hours tromping around, swimming through chilly pools, just trying to find an escape from Das Boot and the upper Subway. Climbed up a couple gnarly gullies/chimneys in hopes of a way. But it was not to be found.

I guess it was a year or so later that I returned with my good old Zion pioneering partner and we pulled it off. I miss those days when everything was so mysterious, and surprises lurked around every corner. I guess they still do though.

I used CP's instructions, especially for areas where the GPS didn't track (like the steep climbs from the river, both sides); and a track from Day Hiker. We had few route-finding issues, and managed to make the RT in 9.5 hrs. If we had to do all the route-finding without beta, the trip would have been more like 13 to infinity hours.

Given that I am using old figures, 20 hours of climbing for $100, that comes to $5/hour. Paid for hiking, that'd sound good to some. All you have to do is to steal the register, ship it off, and return it when it comes back, and nab a 2X in the process. No reason that you couldn't bring some friends/clients along and surreptitiously each time and on the quick insert the book unnoticed. Not for me, but for some, a job.

Then everybody's happy by the local enviro club.

1000Pks wrote:Given that I am using old figures, 20 hours of climbing for $100, that comes to $5/hour. Paid for hiking, that'd sound good to some. All you have to do is to steal the register, ship it off, and return it when it comes back, and nab a 2X in the process. No reason that you couldn't bring some friends/clients along and surreptitiously each time and on the quick insert the book unnoticed. Not for me, but for some, a job.

Then everybody's happy by the local enviro club.

That is exactly how cp0915 and dayhiker's names got in there, but neither cheap bastard paid me $100!

Dow Williams wrote:That is exactly how cp0915 and dayhiker's names got in there, but neither cheap bastard paid me $100!

Canadian or USA dollars? That makes a difference in feasibility. At least you could have put a better register bottle back up there. In fact, I would give you an extra $10 if you brought one of those ammo boxes back up.

Canadian or USA dollars?

The local enviro club wouldn't quibble. They'd pay in euros, yen, pesos, pounds, or whatever if so desired. Exchange is easy, climbing for them is hard!

1000Pks wrote:The local enviro club wouldn't quibble. They'd pay in euros, yen, pesos, pounds, or whatever if so desired. Exchange is easy, climbing for them is hard!

I thought the Mustang Ranch debit card was their payment of choice, no?

Bob Burd wrote:

1000Pks wrote:The local enviro club wouldn't quibble. They'd pay in euros, yen, pesos, pounds, or whatever if so desired. Exchange is easy, climbing for them is hard!

I thought the Mustang Ranch debit card was their payment of choice, no?

They wouldn't like it when the wives see the transact on the monthly statement. btw, it's the Wildhorse, now.

Dow Williams wrote:

1000Pks wrote:Given that I am using old figures, 20 hours of climbing for $100, that comes to $5/hour. Paid for hiking, that'd sound good to some. All you have to do is to steal the register, ship it off, and return it when it comes back, and nab a 2X in the process. No reason that you couldn't bring some friends/clients along and surreptitiously each time and on the quick insert the book unnoticed. Not for me, but for some, a job.

Then everybody's happy by the local enviro club.

That is exactly how cp0915 and dayhiker's names got in there, but neither cheap bastard paid me $100!

But we paid you in smiles, Dow!

The register has dried out nicely. We were hoping to replace it with a plastic bottle but we couldn't fit those rigid little notebooks into the one we had with us. Its sealed in a ziploc with the old plastic bottle covering it well.