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Re: Front Page

Postby mrchad9 » Thu Jul 28, 2011 10:40 pm

I have no issue at all with your trip reports. Just do not think that trip reports should be selected based on who flatters the mods the most.

And hopefully it isn't.
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Re: Front Page

Postby mrchad9 » Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:13 pm

Josh Lewis wrote:How do we know Mr. Chad isn't using his psychology and is saying that so that his recent page he made gets featured. :lol:

You don't know that, but those who select the pages here know me well enough to know that isn't what I am doing.
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Re: Front Page

Postby butitsadryheat » Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:35 pm

Bob Sihler wrote:
Lionel wrote:Earlier today I saw a front page TR about a trip in the Inyo Mountains, did that disappear?


The owner apparently deleted the page and then posted a redone version: http://www.summitpost.org/a-love-affair-with-the-inyos-a-double-traverse/735443.


It looks to be the same trip report. Maybe it was deleted to remove the 5 pages of comments questioning her decision making and truthfulness. Only one comment is there now.
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Re: Front Page

Postby chugach mtn boy » Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:13 pm

Dow Williams wrote:you are only mocking Matt's inability to inovate the site, meanwhile losing/not attracking N. American "climber" (folks who actually climb and yes there is such a thing on the "internets" (sic)) contributors and users not too mention so many folks who were willing to contribute at one time or another...

The nice thing about SP is that it caters to a variety of interests, including former climbers, wannabe climbers, never-gonna-be climbers, and general mountain lovers. Also, that it's not all about "N. American."

Dow, it would be a shame to lose you, but you could move your content over to your own site. Then you could be featured, not just more often than anybody else, but every single day! You'd be cronies with the owner!
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Re: Front Page

Postby mvs » Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:08 pm

The reason the site doesn't have a lot of contributors from Germany is that the site isn't in German, it's in English. Same for French and Italian. Not because Gangolf wrote his article about the Südpfalz. I understand you want to put overwhelming force behind your arguments, but c'mon.

Still, like you, I'd like to see the site be more friendly for technical climbing. At times I've argued for a wiki approach...because according to my theory, there are many more thousands who want to just write up a little bit about what they know, and not to meet the super-high standards set for mountains and routes. But at least one of the poor, left-out, taken-for-granted North American "real" climbers you allude to was horrified at that idea, as were many others. So we've been having these kinds of conversations but just haven't found a consensus. You don't seem to have any problem making excellent pages either.

This is actually a really complex problem, and trying to address it by picking on Gangolf won't solve anything. I guess you imagine a horde of real climbers waiting in the wings but too discouraged to contribute because of the contents of the front page...which they are monitoring for cronyism, euro-bias, anti-climber bias and all the other accusations you make. I doubt this contingent of people are real.
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