by MoapaPk » Fri May 14, 2010 6:58 pm
by Luciano136 » Fri May 14, 2010 7:14 pm
MoapaPk wrote:Perhaps Nat'l Geo TOPO has changed, but here's what I remember from the old days, perhaps 3 years ago (I gave away my copy):
If you downloaded a track from GPS to computer, no matter how long, it was turned into separate waypoints.
If you drew a track on the computer, and uploaded it to the GPS, it was turned into waypoints-- a confusing mass of waypoints on the GPS screen.
by nhluhr » Sat May 15, 2010 5:01 am
You are missing a big point on quality. Since you're limited to whatever your printer can handle (8.5x11), you either have to zoom out and have illegible map features or lost detail OR forgo all the context of the map that would be helpful for, you know, actual navigation.... Having a zoomed in snippet of a map is useless if you need to triangulate from distant landmarks. Also, the prints that TOPO produce are NEVER as clear to read as a professionally printed USGS quad. Even if you go to REI and get it printed from the TOPO! kiosk, it still sucks.Buz Groshong wrote:nhluhr wrote:I don't know why anybody would use TOPO! unless they REALLY need the ability to center the area of interest on a print-out. But then you're limited by crappy print quality, smaller sheet size, badly aliased graphics, and you're still paying for each map you download!
USGS quads are the way to go. If you can't find what you want locally, order it directly from the USGS! http://store.usgs.gov You can even preview the full resolution pdf version of it first.
1. I can print on letter-size paper at home very cheaply (once I've bought the CD) - perfect for a typical day hike. I can also draw the route on it before I print it out and can annotate it however I please.
2. I can run a profile of the hike route.
3. I can upload data from my GPS and save it with the map file (or save it separately).
4. I can download waypoints from the map to my GPS.
5. The quality is only crappy when the corresponding USGS quad is crappy.
by MoapaPk » Sat May 15, 2010 3:24 pm
nhluhr wrote:Regarding maps on your GPS, assuming you're using Garmin like 90% of the world, you can download free open source topo maps that are the same contour/scale/detail as USGS quads and you can also download transparent overlays for trails, landmarks, etc.
Seriously, who pays for all this? It's FREE already! The only thing worth paying for is high quality prints of the maps... and that's what store.usgs.gov is for.
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Bill Reed wrote: Even more ridiculous is the golf course located at 10,080 ft, above the reservoir. Anybody out there ever played this course?:lol:
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