Alpinist wrote:mvs wrote:...
As for how to divy up points among the different editors of a page, what about keeping track of the # of changed characters per changeset per user, and portioning out points that way. In that case, Mark's Charon's Garden Wilderness page points would mostly go to him, and because Bubba Suess made just a handful of edits it would work out that he'd get 10%. Eventually, after Bubba made dozens of changes over a couple of years, his "changed character count" would be higher than Mark's, and the bulk of points would therefore shift over time to him (rewarding his efforts).
I'm not so sure that rewarding people on quantity is a good idea. That will encourage point chasers to write pages and pages of mindess garbage which will not help to solve the quality issue. I think it is better to reward quality over quantity and that is only done by voting. The voting system isn't perfect; the scoring algorithm is terrible, people vote 10 on garbage pages, there are voting cliques, etc - but it is better than giving points based on quantity I think.
Bubba Suess wrote:Bruno wrote:mvs wrote:Now today, I'm arguing for a new way to contribute, that is by a combination of occasionally creating mountain/route pages, and by roving around editing and improving on public sections. It would be great if that is rewarded too.
I would be a bit more conservative on that one, and would prefer if editors of open pages would not receive any power point for their edits, for the following reasons:
1) It would be very difficult to define how an edit should be rewarded. Same reward for a new chapter or for simply correcting a typo?
2) Members obsessed with power points might be tempted to edit virtually everything... (and even with safeguards, they will easily find the loophole)
3) Members currently afraid of the possible novelty will certainly mention the above point as a reason why we should not go partly wiki...
4) Most members willing to contribute in a collaborative way by opening their own pages and improving other open pages are probably not much interested in power points, but more in quality and simply in helping to improve the site.
If a "reward" should be given, then maybe in terms of visibility by automatically mentioning the name of editors somewhere in the page and/or have a line with "number of edit" in you profile page (similar to your "number of posts" in the forum).
I have not thought this one all the way through, but I think that it would be best, even in Summitpost's current configuration, if power points were apportioned by weight of contribution on any given page. For example, I own of Mark Doiron's aforementioned pages in which he has supplied a large quantity of great work (Charon's Garden Wilderness). I have always felt guilty for his not being rewarded for his effort. If we're to be split the points in proportion to our contributions, I think that would be much, much more equitable.
Josh Lewis wrote:Here's what helps me out. 1. Find a map generator that would produce a map as a .jpg 2. Take some pics on your trips which sometimes I take photos that I do not post just to remind me "there is a fork in the trail in 2 miles" or something like that.
PellucidWombat wrote:Josh Lewis wrote:Here's what helps me out. 1. Find a map generator that would produce a map as a .jpg 2. Take some pics on your trips which sometimes I take photos that I do not post just to remind me "there is a fork in the trail in 2 miles" or something like that.
With time recorded in photo files, this is also a good way to record time, whether it is hiking times, or times to climb a technical route.
Josh Lewis wrote:Speaking of gpx files, I manually draw mine up using careful observations using google earth. It takes between 10 minutes to an hour depending on how complicated and long the route is. But agreed, gpx files should give at least a tiny bit of a point.
ZeeJay wrote:With regards to separating hiking and climbing routes I don't mind if this happens, but I don't see the point since they are already categorized by "Route Type" and "Rock Difficulty", but then again, I'm not a climber.
ZeeJay wrote:Step 1: Send a PM to author
Step 2: Send a PM to the elves.
However, I do think there is a problem with people not being aware of the above method. Perhaps it should be stated on the front page, prominently displayed in flashing red letters.
hiltrud.liu wrote:The game with the points may depend on the popularity of a man, if a person has many friends.
Sometimes a lonely queer fish is very busy on SP, but this member can get hardly points for his famous images.
Perhaps this is the solution: You look at points on SP as a welcome and a little recognition of your working, then one point is enough, and sometimes a kindly comment.
mvs wrote: I went off into geekland thinking about automatic systems.
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