by jthomas » Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:52 pm
by Dow Williams » Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:27 pm
by ExcitableBoy » Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:33 pm
by jthomas » Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:36 pm
Dow Williams wrote:My hands became frost bit working a cattle ranch in my teens. Some 30+ years later I can attest to learning the ins and outs of warm hand management. I climb full time, some of which includes climbing and skiing in the Canadian winter. A friend of mine, and one of the better mixed climbers in the world, taught me a simple trick. Take multiple light weight gloves. For me that normally means inexpensive, but functional OR gloves, the Vert and/or ExtraVert. If ice climbing in extreme cold, I take a pair per pitch. The waiting pair has a set of chemical hand warmers in them. The kind that can be bought at Costco for $.30 per. For skiing and/or alpine climbing in cold temps, I do the same thing, but prob with just one pair of ExtraVerts and one pair of Verts. Again, the pair not in use has hand warmers in it.
What I learned to avoid? Geting my hands too warm. Moisture, more than temps, is the main culprit to cold hands. I believe I saw a stat the other day that you become hyothermic in cold conditions 40 times quicker when wet. Your hands prob become colder at about the same raio. Down mittens will cause your hands to sweat. Avoid expensive gloves and mitts in general. They are bulky, weigh more, and once wet inside, useless. Instead rely on multiple, less expensive and lighter weight gloves. I cannot say enough about the OR product line. I mostly only wear the Vert or ExtraVert though. I can get you a pair of each to try if you want, at cost.
by ExcitableBoy » Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:56 pm
by glahhg » Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:36 pm
by dskoon » Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:55 pm
by Snowslogger » Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:26 am
by jthomas » Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:02 pm
dskoon wrote:EB, and JThomas, Pataguch does make a pretty decent looking glove that might compare to EB's bunting, and might be warmer than the fleece JThomas showed in his link. They're called the Patagonia Better Sweater glove, the same fleece they use in their Better Sweaters. I haven't actually used them, but I did take a look at them and they look warm, wind resistant, etc. Again, similar to their Better Sweater fleece, which is pretty warm stuff. Can't say how the gloves will hold up to anything more rigorous than hiking, but probably pretty good for simple warmth. Looks like they're on sale but sold out on their web site; might be able to find them in their stores, web, etc. Good luck. Definitely takes some experimentation with different combos.
http://www.patagonia.com/us/product/bet ... 4670-1-155
by Marcsoltan » Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:40 pm
ExcitableBoy wrote:Just to add to what Dow said, to improve circulation and warmth take one asprin and one garlic tablet each morning of your hike/climb.
by Marcsoltan » Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:06 pm
jthomas wrote:Trying to come up a functional glove system. On a training hike this past weekend, I alternated between cold hands in my light gloves and too hot in my heavier ones. I have experimented with wearing liner gloves under the light ones, and paradoxically, the liner makes the combo enough tighter to slightly restrict circulation and make things colder. i have read a recommendation to carry a shell mitten to put over regular gloves when it was too cold/windy. Anyone have any specific recommendations? This is for hiking and guided climbs, nothing exotic like ice climbing. I have been looking at the stuff from CAMP. Appears to be super lightweight and functional. Thanks.
by ExcitableBoy » Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:48 pm
Marcsoltan wrote:ExcitableBoy wrote:Just to add to what Dow said, to improve circulation and warmth take one asprin and one garlic tablet each morning of your hike/climb.
I see the point about taking an Aspirin-thining of the blood hence better circulation and all, but does taking a garlic tablet do for you?
by dskoon » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:25 am
Marcsoltan wrote:ExcitableBoy wrote:Just to add to what Dow said, to improve circulation and warmth take one asprin and one garlic tablet each morning of your hike/climb.
I see the point about taking an Aspirin-thining of the blood hence better circulation and all, but does taking a garlic tablet do for you?
by ExcitableBoy » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:46 am
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