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Worst bivy?

Postby Daria » Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:45 pm

Hell Hath No Fury than when that realization starts that you might need to bivy. (no bivy sack or sleeping bag, I think this is usually referred to as "unexpected bivy")

When? Where? Why? How long? Did you endure?
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Re: Worst bivy?

Postby Steve1215 » Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:54 pm

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You must be talking about "forced" bivys, not planned bivys. Most planned bivys are somewhat comfortable, I imagine.

My worst "semi-planned" bivy was atop Mt Mendel in October, 1993, with only a space blanket to keep me warm. We did not sleep a wink, only shivered the night away.

I would guess the worst forced bivys are done hanging in slings on a rock wall or tentless and bagless at high altitude.
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Re: Worst bivy?

Postby Steve1215 » Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:21 pm

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John Roskelley and company spent the night on top of Cholatse, after the peak's first ascent.

A photograph from that famous nightmare bivy is featured on the cover of this book...(JR in pic)

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edit: Clevenger, Rowell and O'Connor also credited with FA

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Re: Worst bivy?

Postby ExcitableBoy » Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:58 pm

Hmm, I have had a cold unplanned bivi (Mt Barille, AK in May), a wet unplanned bivi (Mt Stuart, WA in Aug), and a long unplanned bivi (Mt Shuksan, WA in Sept). Never hit the trifecta of suckage though and looking back they all seem like character building experiences.
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Re: Worst bivy?

Postby boyblue » Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:55 pm

My worst (and only) bivy was one long night near timberline on east slope of Kearsarge Peak. The first half of the night I spent shivering under a scrub pine. The last half I was up and dancing the way Native Americans are portrayed dancing in old Westerns. I don't think I slept a wink all night.

Earlier, I'd been seeing flashes of light out of the corner of my eyes. Oh, great! A thunderstorm is just what I needed. It turned out to be the fireworks display on the outskirts of the town of Independence about seven thousand feet below. Whew! (It was the 4th of July, you see.)

All in all, not a terrible experience in spite of the cold and lack of water. I almost even welcomed it since most of my trips had started to become kind of mundane at the time.
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Re: Worst bivy?

Postby McCannster » Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:44 am

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Re: Worst bivy?

Postby Species8472 » Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:19 am

ExcitableBoy wrote:Hmm, I have had a cold unplanned bivi (Mt Barille, AK in May), a wet unplanned bivi (Mt Stuart, WA in Aug), and a long unplanned bivi (Mt Shuksan, WA in Sept). Never hit the trifecta of suckage though and looking back they all seem like character building experiences.


"trifecta of suckage" - one of the best descriptive phrases I have heard in a while. Worthy of repeating given the right circumstances.
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Re: Worst bivy?

Postby Bubba Suess » Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:30 am

Does being incarcerated at the airport jail in Catania, Sicily count?
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Re: Worst bivy?

Postby Steve1215 » Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:15 am

Bubba Suess wrote:Does being incarcerated at the airport jail in Catania, Sicily count?



Awwww, come on, Bubba--that's gotta be worth at least a paragraph of expository information.

Was a drug-sniffing dog involved?

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Re: Worst bivy?

Postby ExcitableBoy » Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:24 pm

Bubba Suess wrote:Does being incarcerated at the airport jail in Catania, Sicily count?

For Amanda Knox it does.
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Re: Worst bivy?

Postby ExcitableBoy » Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:42 pm

whitetail wrote:"trifecta of suckage" - one of the best descriptive phrases I have heard in a while. Worthy of repeating given the right circumstances.


Rearding the wet bivi on Mt Stuart: My partner and I were gunning for a one day ascent of the Razorback Ridge. Failing to access the start due to a large moat, we moved over to the North Ridge. On the way we passed a couple of slow moving climbers. By the time we hit the Great Gendarme storm clouds were slamming against the upper mountain. We topped out just as it started to snow. We ran into another party and the four of us ran down the Cascadian Couloir, being chased by the storm. My partner slowed down and I waited for him at the Ingall's Creek Trail, now in a full on rain storm. I found a dry tree to hunker under until he showed up. We began to hike out via Longs Pass and ran into the other two climbers we descended with. In the dark and rain we could not find the faint climber's path crossing Ingalls Creek and up to Long's Pass. We all stopped in the trees getting rained on waiting for the light of day. We started a fire to keep warm.

The other party of two climbers would spend three more days 6,000 feet above on the storm whipped summit before being resuced. One of the climbers had taken a rock to the face knocking out teeth. Their down bags got soaked inside their bivi sacs. They were wet, cold, and hungry for three long days and nights. My definition of the trifecta of suckage.
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Re: Worst bivy?

Postby Steve1215 » Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:58 pm

ExcitableBoy wrote:The other party of two climbers would spend three more days 6,000 feet above on the storm whipped summit before being resuced. One of the climbers had taken a rock to the face knocking out teeth. Their down bags got soaked inside their bivi sacs. They were wet, cold, and hungry for three long days and nights. My definition of the trifecta of suckage.



They would have had more fun just going to Joshua Tree...

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Re: Worst bivy?

Postby Daria » Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:14 pm

Oh, no, my friend. I'd take the trifecta of suckage any day over Joshua Tree.

ran into the other two climbers we descended with. In the dark and rain we could not find the faint climber's path crossing Ingalls Creek and up to Long's Pass.


carrying a GPS usually solves this. Simply leaving a waypoint for trail or camp, makes it impossible to get lost.

The last half I was up and dancing the way Native Americans are portrayed dancing in old Westerns. I don't think I slept a wink all night.


lol!!

Sometimes it's best to just keep moving, I've pulled all nighters that way simply by electing not to bivy. I think after the sensation of the cold and shivering, the second worst thing about a bivy is that nauseous "i feel like crap" feeling you get in the morning when you start moving again. Ugh.

I don't know why the human body has to be so picky about temperatures when sleeping, if you are cold just a bit, it will prevent you from sleeping.
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Re: Worst bivy?

Postby ExcitableBoy » Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:17 pm

Daria wrote:carrying a GPS usually solves this. Simply leaving a waypoint for trail or camp, makes it impossible to get lost.


Hard for kids your age to understand, but I grew up before color TV, cellular telephones, and Satelite enabled GPS devices.
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Re: Worst bivy?

Postby Florida Frank » Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:24 pm

OK, not technically a bivy but my most miserable ever overnight experience: College age circa 1977, December overnight on a hardwood ridgetop in Pennsylvania. Weather deteriorated quickly into quite the bad ice storm. Large tree limbs crashing down all night around the tent, which was a POS and leaked excessively. Nothing like the three of us laying awake in a puddle of water all night and wondering if the next "crack - thud" was going to hit the tent and take us out. Found a 6-8 inch diameter limb had fallen maybe 10 feet from the tent. In such a hurry to depart at dawn that we left a borrowed stove at the campsite. Went back a week later and successfully retrieved it under several inches of frozen stuff. Lesson learned as a youngster: Pay much closer attention to the weather forecast!
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