Well, it's more mistake correction than anything.

More like KILLING EM by the HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS and then allowing their carcass's to lay out and rot in the sun.

Like I posted, so Intelligently human.

Alpinist wrote:The Brookies in the Emigrant Wilderness have some beautiful color!

Nice!

Fall fly fishing, anyone?

TimB wrote:Fall fly fishing, anyone?

Come on down Tim.

The very rare Glass Creek Paiute CT awaits you....

When you catch trout how many do you guys usually release and how many do you usually take home to eat?

C & R all the time here.... regardless.

More so the very "rare" indigenous species that can be found throughout the area.

A5RP wrote:

TimB wrote:Fall fly fishing, anyone?

Come on down Tim.

The very rare Glass Creek Paiute CT awaits you....

Cool!
I had never even heard of the Paiute, Rick. Had to Google it up. A rare sort of Cutthroat? Beautiful fish.
Didn't realize you were into fishing, also??

Vitaliy M. wrote:When you catch trout how many do you guys usually release and how many do you usually take home to eat?

Catch and Release for me, Vitaliy. Ever since my dad tried to feed me under-cooked rainbow caught at Specimen Creek(I think that was the name of the place?) when I was a 5 year old I can't stand the taste of fish of any kind.

Still like to catch 'em though.

TimB wrote:Cool!
I had never even heard of the Paiute, Rick. Had to Google it up. A rare sort of Cutthroat? Beautiful fish.
Didn't realize you were into fishing, also??

Yup... five sticks/reels and a table full of hackle, feathers, hooks, vise etc.

A5RP wrote:

TimB wrote:Cool!
I had never even heard of the Paiute, Rick. Had to Google it up. A rare sort of Cutthroat? Beautiful fish.
Didn't realize you were into fishing, also??

Yup... five sticks/reels and a table full of hackle, feathers, hooks, vise etc.

You sound like my dad! When I was little I spent hours, days, either wading in Steelhead streams, freezing my ass off, or sitting around while my dad and grandpa tied flies.

Good memories.

If I aint climbing, I'm working the local Wild Trout.

All no more than a 1/2 hours drive from my drive-way.


Can't beat it.

TimB wrote:When I was little I spent hours, days, either wading in Steelhead streams, freezing my ass off, or sitting around while my dad and grandpa tied flies.

Good memories.

When I was 8-12 years old every summer I would be out in my great grandmother's house in a wild village. I would go fishing 4-7 days a week every week through the summer. Remember catching a carp was one of my best days ever. Mostly went for small mouth bass, catfish, and other fish for whose names I do not know English translation. It was great. Even learned to catch crawfish from their holes under water, although could do that only about once in 4 days to let the wounds from the previous day heal lol.

C & R all the time here.... regardless.

Really? You never eat the regular trout too?

twoshuzz wrote:

Vitaliy M. wrote:When you catch trout how many do you guys usually release and how many do you usually take home to eat?

For me, it depends on the fish, the system I'm fishing and just what the hell I'm doing there. Generally, I'm a C&R fisherman, but hatchery fish are meant for the freezer and are not for spawning with wild fish stocks. On many streams up here, ODFW will trap those anadromous species of hatchery origin which escape both the commercial and sport catch. Generally, the fish are killed and returned to the river or stream as a means of returning nutrients within the system.

So, I tend to keep a fair amount of hatchery Chinook, Coho and Steelhead. Native fish are always returned whether allowable to keep or not. Same for trout, stream or lake. But when in the BC for a good stretch, I tend to depend on a fish or two to cover a couple/few meals depending on how long I'm in. Most of our "high" lakes are stocked by air every couple of years, winter kill amongst them being relatively high. If the funded resource is available, I'd rather put it to use.

C&R is standard for me too. Of course, there was that one trip when I got separated fom my father. He had all the meals and I had the cooking supplies. We both had to rely on eating trout 2 meals a day for 3 days while we were apart. Thankfully, we each had our own snacks - and our fishing gear. Thought for sure my dad had fallen somewhere and gotten himself killed as we were hiking off-trail with heavy packs. (We were going up and over a small ridge and I decided to run up to the peak while my father said he would meet me at the lake on the other side...) Spent a day looking for his corpse before I decided I'd better get help. I was quite relieved to find him back at the TH... Didn't eat fish for a while after that trip.

Bigmouth bass is my favorite for consumption, when not too old. Beautiful white meat. Actually might try to go and catch one tomorrow...sounds good ATM

Vitaliy M. wrote:Bigmouth bass is my favorite for consumption, when not too old. Beautiful white meat. Actually might try to go and catch one tomorrow...sounds good ATM

I didn't know you guys have Largemouth Bass in California. I have never caught one, but they look like a blast to fish for.

Gafoto wrote:

A5RP wrote:

Gafoto wrote:A lot of the alpine lakes have been gill netted. Upper Horton was done recently. Most of the lakes out of Onion Valley were also done and the frog populations have rebounded. I think the more popular fishing lakes will continue to stay stocked or at least not netted.

Isn't that so intelligently human .... terminate "KILL" thousands of several species in order to save one.

Well, it's more mistake correction than anything. People purposely introduced a species into the lakes and now we're taking it back out. I agree it's a little odd to be simultaneously gill netting some lakes and stocking others.

To set the record straight on the subject of re-establishing native frogs (Mountain Yellow Legged Frog) in Sequoia and Kings Canyon NP:

1) No fish are being eliminated from lakes/streams outside of the park boundaries (Sequoia and Kings Canyon... SEKI), which means Onion Valley is not being "done" (Onion Valley is part of the Inyo National Forest which falls under a different set of rules and regulations).
2) Of the waters where fish have been or will be eliminated, they will amount to no more than 10% of the lakes and streams within SEKI.
3) No lakes and streams are currently being restocked within SEKI. The policy to stop restocking non-native fish in national parks began in 1972 and completely ceased several years ago.
4) Non-native fish are effecting a decline in biodiversity. Removing non-native fish is an effort to restore biodiversity. In other words, one or two misplaced species are being exterminated in an effort to save many (this is not just about frogs, frogs are more specifically the "canary in the coal mine").

I hope these facts help, the issue is complicated and strife with misinformation. No one is certain if these efforts to re-establish biodiversity will be met with success. There are other variables to contend with such as climate change and poorly understood fungal infections. The focus of our National Park Service is to preserve these places for future generations, and while tangled in an often dysfunctional bureaucracy, without the NPS these pristine places would be far worse off today than otherwise.