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Re: Vitaliy M. invades the Sierra Club

Postby myles » Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:17 pm

My understanding is that Clyde was fired from his teaching post after firing "at" some kids joy-riding in his car. Someone is said to have quipped later that he if Clyde had really been shooting at them, someone would have been hit.
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Re: Vitaliy M. invades the Sierra Club

Postby simonov » Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:59 pm

The fact remains, he was a cranky old bastard.
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Re: Vitaliy M. invades the Sierra Club

Postby toxo » Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:38 am

Vitaliy M. wrote:Not sure how that relates to my slide show.


All I know is that the Washington Column kitten relates to your slide show.

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Vitaliy M. wrote: "Seems their gratitude for my dedicated services to their program was not one bit what I assumed it would be. I have been known to be foolishly trusting at times."
I am sure many can apply this quote to a lot in their life. It is not unusual to get burned by others, especially when you are trying to help them. Not many people out there are honest and well mannered. Most just want to use you and screw you over if it benefits them in any way.


And sometimes such lowly behaviors are the immune responses of humanoid lifeforms who are so insecure and dissatisfied with themselves they have to throw any stick and stone they can grab at those who are currently enjoying success. Sadly, these beings can be encountered at every walk of life, from science, to climbing, to the military.
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Re: Vitaliy M. invades the Sierra Club

Postby Vitaliy M. » Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:53 am

If you only knew how bummed I was to see other people taking it home that morning. If we did not go to all you can eat breakfast and were an hour early... : ( cutest kitty ever. Hope he is happy with those people..
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Re: Vitaliy M. invades the Sierra Club

Postby Kahuna » Tue Oct 02, 2012 8:01 pm

Read the link above. It actually gets the story right.


Pavlik's Book Image sources were gathered from Sierra Club records, for the record. Look at the bibliography in the back.

Skewed towards the SC's position evidently.

The Manning (William) Family and Glenn Dawson are the first to state differently as to the actual course of this particular incident and more in line to what I posted he. Both were long very close acquaintances with Norman. Which as some may actually know, he did not have too many of. Both I have had personal contact with and asked them directly about what the REST OF THE STORY concerning this incident.

Like everything in this world of bio's, sometimes the authors DO NOT research their facts too in depth.

But then don't take my word for it. Glenn Dawson is always warm to seeing anyone at his Nursing Home in Pasadena and Bill Manning still lives in Mammoth and loves sharing his personal stories of having Norman baby sitting his ass till he was 12 years old at his home outside of Big Pine.

For the record, Andy Selters is in the process of writing a far more factual BIO on Norman. Last time I spoke to Bill Manning (who btw was my Boss at the Mammoth/Yosemite Airport and Shipmate from my tour in Antarctica in the early 80's), he is more than available to share his personal side of the story about his 12 years of direct contact with Norman. Norman rented a single bedroom shack from Bills folks for over 15 years at their ranch outside Big Pine.


For the record as well.... anyone that knows anything about Norman, knows straight up that he was most often more bitter about being around city folks that he was pleased. Ansel Adams described him the best in this book, Conversations with Ansel Adams:

Norman was consistently elusive and persnickety. Never really finding time for any of us. He kept to his classics. When he did, he was quick at demanding and had no time for intolerance.
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Re: Vitaliy M. invades the Sierra Club

Postby AlexRts » Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:52 pm

Is this event still happening? Anyone planning to go?
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Re: Vitaliy M. invades the Sierra Club

Postby Vitaliy M. » Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:30 pm

Yes, although the thread was hijacked, the event will still happen. I know a few members who will show up. Not sure how many more will...
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Re: Vitaliy M. invades the Sierra Club

Postby clmbr » Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:37 am

If anyone drives from San Francisco and have an available seat or wants to carpool, PM me. I’m located near SFSU.

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Re: Vitaliy M. invades the Sierra Club

Postby mrchad9 » Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:35 am

You jump crevasses on glaciers solo but partner up to drive from San Francisco to Palo Alto?

Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah!
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Re: Vitaliy M. invades the Sierra Club

Postby kevin trieu » Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:11 am

I'm flying back from the Himalayas to attend this historic event.
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Re: Vitaliy M. invades the Sierra Club

Postby simonov » Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:18 pm

kevin trieu wrote:I'm flying back from the Himalayas to attend this historic event.


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Re: Vitaliy M. invades the Sierra Club

Postby Vitaliy M. » Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:28 pm

clmbr wrote:If anyone drives from San Francisco and have an available seat or wants to carpool, PM me. I’m located near SFSU.

Thanks


If I did not already work in Palo Alto I would give you a ride. If you take BART, I can give you one back for sure.
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Re: Vitaliy M. invades the Sierra Club

Postby clmbr » Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:48 pm

Vitaliy M. wrote:
clmbr wrote:If anyone drives from San Francisco and have an available seat or wants to carpool, PM me. I’m located near SFSU.

Thanks


If I did not already work in Palo Alto I would give you a ride. If you take BART, I can give you one back for sure.

BART to Palo Alto? Is it even possible? Thanks anyway.

mrchad9 wrote:You jump crevasses on glaciers solo but partner up to drive from San Francisco to Palo Alto?

Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah!

It looks like I will be traveling solo again :o :roll: :lol:
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Re: Vitaliy M. invades the Sierra Club

Postby clmbr » Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:11 pm

This presentation was a nice event with various choices of sweets to stay energized. I've finally met Vitaliy and Chad in person. Vitaliy presented a lot of slides from his rock climbing accomplishment (5.7 -5.10+) over (only) the last two years. And I mean a lot. It seems like if he is not working, he is climbing.

Good work, keep it up. I hope to see your Himalayan presentation in the future.

It was nice meeting you guys.
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Re: Vitaliy M. invades the Sierra Club

Postby Bob Burd » Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:46 pm

He takes great photos and quite an entertaining presenter. It would seem he's a pretty good mountaineer, too. As an aside, Hamik will be happy to know that Vitaliy has found him a new girlfriend named Lisa.

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